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Andy, your point is well taken. We are all plugged into a vast network that
has some of the qualities McCluhen discussed when he spoke of the "global
village." I am aware (in awe) of that capacity for each of us to be in
touch. Right now, one of my colleagues is doing a summer turn in Australia.
We exchange messages each night. But what is really new in this for me is
the cost. It's relatively free. Twenty years ago teleconferencing took place.
I recall seminars with a speaker phone and five or six people hooked in...and
from diverse places. And that was really interaction...real time. Still, I
never begin to type in my words without that awareness of the range of contact.
Still, there is a textureless quality to all of this. You, with you imagina-
tion, were responding to this when you gave us our "art images." There is
something so much fuller and grander and richer and, yes, more vital, in
a Wagnerian opera than anything I have yet to see come from this machine.
Just 20 minutes ago an old friend left. He lives in Hawaii. He is, among
other things, a computer artist. He has been a "cultureal hero" in China, he
has had shows all over the place, and works in numbers of museums. He just
told me that he is now doing the image making on the Mac and having the image
photographed by a pro. photog. then sending the image to China where some art-
ist paints it for him (5' x 8'), rolls it up and ships to back. What I found
most interesting is that he is now asking the artist to not be so faithful to
the pixel..."be more 'artistic'" he says. He seems to want to eliminate the
look of the computer image and imbue the works with a richer texture (and I
think he means that on several levels). While he does not like opera, I think
he would agree with my reading of the imagery of the electronic media. Even
television, as powerful as that is, still does not have the moving quality
of a live performance. Still, as I said, this quirk of mine may pass and I
may one day stand on that bright precipice that is the future.
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Andy, your point is well taken. We are all plugged into a vast network that
has some of the qualities McCluhen discussed when he spoke of the "global
village." I am aware (in awe) of that capacity for each of us to be in
touch. Right now, one of my colleagues is doing a summer turn in Australia.
We exchange messages each night. But what is really new in this for me is
the cost. It's relatively free. Twenty years ago teleconferencing took place.
I recall seminars with a speaker phone and five or six people hooked in...and
from diverse places. And that was really interaction...real time. Still, I
never begin to type in my words without that awareness of the range of contact.
Still, there is a textureless quality to all of this. You, with you imagina-
tion, were responding to this when you gave us our "art images." There is
something so much fuller and grander and richer and, yes, more vital, in
a Wagnerian opera than anything I have yet to see come from this machine.
Just 20 minutes ago an old friend left. He lives in Hawaii. He is, among
other things, a computer artist. He has been a "cultureal hero" in China, he
has had shows all over the place, and works in numbers of museums. He just
told me that he is now doing the image making on the Mac and having the image
photographed by a pro. photog. then sending the image to China where some art-
ist paints it for him (5' x 8'), rolls it up and ships to back. What I found
most interesting is that he is now asking the artist to not be so faithful to
the pixel..."be more 'artistic'" he says. He seems to want to eliminate the
look of the computer image and imbue the works with a richer texture (and I
think he means that on several levels). While he does not like opera, I think
he would agree with my reading of the imagery of the electronic media. Even
television, as powerful as that is, still does not have the moving quality
of a live performance. Still, as I said, this quirk of mine may pass and I
may one day stand on that bright precipice that is the future.
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