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In article <1993Aug16.154927@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> bergmans@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (Lodewijk
Bergmans) writes:
>>>As a corporate security manager I find *great* resistance to security
>>>suggestions.
>>It's not just in architecture. Back in the late '50s, if I recall, Ford
>>tried to sell safety. They talked about such things as seat belts, padded
>>dash boards, etc. It was a dismal flop -- they actually lost market share,
>>attributable by many to their safety campaign. It seems that the public and
>>Madison Avenue don't want to think about unpleasant topics any more than they
>>have to.
>
>This sounds like a good example, as these days (more than 30 years later),
safety
>is becoming one of the important issues in selling cars! Maybe this is more a
european
>trend, as for example airbags are by now slowly becoming more common.
>
>Obviously, people should be made more aware of how security suggestions in
buildings
>help making the building really *safer*. I care more about aestethics myself,
to be
>honest. But then, I know no-one personally that has ever been threatened (or
worse)
>physically while inside a building...
>
>regards, Lodewijk
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In article <1993Aug16.154927@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> bergmans@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (Lodewijk
Bergmans) writes:
>>>As a corporate security manager I find *great* resistance to security
>>>suggestions.
>>It's not just in architecture. Back in the late '50s, if I recall, Ford
>>tried to sell safety. They talked about such things as seat belts, padded
>>dash boards, etc. It was a dismal flop -- they actually lost market share,
>>attributable by many to their safety campaign. It seems that the public and
>>Madison Avenue don't want to think about unpleasant topics any more than they
>>have to.
>
>This sounds like a good example, as these days (more than 30 years later),
safety
>is becoming one of the important issues in selling cars! Maybe this is more a
european
>trend, as for example airbags are by now slowly becoming more common.
>
>Obviously, people should be made more aware of how security suggestions in
buildings
>help making the building really *safer*. I care more about aestethics myself,
to be
>honest. But then, I know no-one personally that has ever been threatened (or
worse)
>physically while inside a building...
>
>regards, Lodewijk
>
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> ---+ Lodewijk Bergmans +-----------------+ Phone +31-53-893715 +--------
> ---+ TRESE project +----------------------------+ +31-53-893680 (secr.) +-
> -----+ group SETI +------------------------+ Fax +31-53-356531 +--------
> -+ Dept. of Computer Science +-----------+ Telex +31-53-44200 +----------
>-------+ University of Twente +-----------+ E-mail bergmans@xxxxxxxxxxxxx +-
> ---+ P.O. Box 217 +------------------------------------------------------
> ----+ 7500 AE Enschede +--------+ Twente Research & Education +-
> -------+ The Netherlands +------------+ on Software Engineering +----
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