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From: daniel.bise@xxxxxxxxxxxx (DANIEL BISE)
Subject: Re: Can I be an architect
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 17:51:00 GMT
Brian D Leet <bl2z+@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
| Excerpts from netnews.alt.architecture: 19-Feb-94 Re: Can I be an
| architect too? by Howard [email protected].
|
| > Architects continually refer to the scarcity of "money,
| > fame, [and] fortune" in their profession, as if they had
| > somehow escaped the baseness imposed on the rest of us by
| > industrial capitalism. [...]
|
B| I find this interesting because as a student who is just
| beginning their journey I know on many occasions I have made
| comparisons to law and or medicine when attempting to explain
| the certification process I must go through.
|
| I think that a major problem is that the public in general
| really has no idea what is involved for architects, [...]
Nevermind the public in general, let's take our public officials.
I heard California Assemblyman Willy Brown in a radio news spot
the other day. He was once again decrying the low salaries of
California teachers relative to other professions. I quote:
"Teachers should make as much as doctors, lawyers and
architects."
[insert howling belly laugh here]
which means they should make more than the puny average $25,000
per year new teachers already receive. A newly minted
architecture grad would be extremely lucky to find that kind of
salary for an entry level position. At one extreme, I personally
know of a firm that starts interns (after they work three months
for free) at a lowly $14,000. Willy Brown should hope he doesn't
get his wish.
That the public and public-appointed officials have no idea what
architects really do could be contributing to the devaluation of
architectural services. This is the same ignorance that
gives us the profession's "mystique."
B| Still when all is said and done, I think the benifit and the
| general public would both be benefitted by a more thorough
| knowledge in the citizenship of what architects do.
Agreed. But would better public awareness mean a loss of
mystique? Would we no longer be treated to screen architects like
Charles Bronson and Alec Baldwin? ;-)
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| daniel.bise@xxxxxxxxxxxx |-----------------------------------.
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| Rochlin, Baran & Balbona | So. Pasadena, CA (818) 441-3965 |
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From: daniel.bise@xxxxxxxxxxxx (DANIEL BISE)
Subject: Re: Can I be an architect
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 17:51:00 GMT
Brian D Leet <bl2z+@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
| Excerpts from netnews.alt.architecture: 19-Feb-94 Re: Can I be an
| architect too? by Howard [email protected].
|
| > Architects continually refer to the scarcity of "money,
| > fame, [and] fortune" in their profession, as if they had
| > somehow escaped the baseness imposed on the rest of us by
| > industrial capitalism. [...]
|
B| I find this interesting because as a student who is just
| beginning their journey I know on many occasions I have made
| comparisons to law and or medicine when attempting to explain
| the certification process I must go through.
|
| I think that a major problem is that the public in general
| really has no idea what is involved for architects, [...]
Nevermind the public in general, let's take our public officials.
I heard California Assemblyman Willy Brown in a radio news spot
the other day. He was once again decrying the low salaries of
California teachers relative to other professions. I quote:
"Teachers should make as much as doctors, lawyers and
architects."
[insert howling belly laugh here]
which means they should make more than the puny average $25,000
per year new teachers already receive. A newly minted
architecture grad would be extremely lucky to find that kind of
salary for an entry level position. At one extreme, I personally
know of a firm that starts interns (after they work three months
for free) at a lowly $14,000. Willy Brown should hope he doesn't
get his wish.
That the public and public-appointed officials have no idea what
architects really do could be contributing to the devaluation of
architectural services. This is the same ignorance that
gives us the profession's "mystique."
B| Still when all is said and done, I think the benifit and the
| general public would both be benefitted by a more thorough
| knowledge in the citizenship of what architects do.
Agreed. But would better public awareness mean a loss of
mystique? Would we no longer be treated to screen architects like
Charles Bronson and Alec Baldwin? ;-)
.----------------------------.
| daniel.bise@xxxxxxxxxxxx |-----------------------------------.
| U of SoCal BArchitorture | T.H.E P.A.T.C.H.B.A.Y B.B.S |
| Rochlin, Baran & Balbona | So. Pasadena, CA (818) 441-3965 |
`----------------------------' Wildcat! 3.90P, Tomcat!, wcUUCP |
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