Subject: Re: loss of great professors
>This has been forwarded to deisgn-l at psuvm. Howard
>In article <gibsonf1Cp3Lxr.Er1@xxxxxxxxxx>, gibsonf1@xxxxxxxxxx (Frederick
>Clifford Gibson) writes:
>> JONATHAN CARLSON (jmcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote:
>> : The Cal Poly School of Architecture is losing some of its finest
>> : professors. This is due largely to the fact that the tenured "old
>dogs"
>are
>> : getting scared that the students are embracing relatively new design
>> : theories being offered to us. One such professor was the coordinator of
>the
>> : first year curriculum at Cal Poly for at least four years. His strong
>> : emphasis on the developement of design principals and concepts played
>a
>> : major role in the direction of the school. Now, it seems as if the
>> : reigning monarch of the school (dean), as well as his tenured t
>suppor
>> : staff, is not happy with the direction the school was heading in,
>which
>> : by the way was becoming one the best design institutions in the
>nation,
>and
>> : a major loss of talented professors hase taken place. We are now a
>> : school with no direction.
>>
>> Are these "new theories" you mention based on deconstructivism? If they
>are,
>> then your Dean is a wise man indeed for vacinating the virus at its root.
>> A direction towards "disease" is not only foolish, but, in the long run,
>> suicidal.
>>
>> Fred Gibson
>> Designer, KMD Architects - San Francisco
>> gibsonf1@xxxxxxxxxx
>Is it not up to the students to choose which design theories they wish to
>examine and learn from, and the job of an institution to provide as
>diverse a field as possible in which students may make their own
>decisions?
?
|HOW ABOUT INSTITUTIONS PROVIDE
AN ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH FACULTY CAN GUIDE STUDENTS IN THEIR OWN DESIGN
RESEARCH RELATED TO REAL PROBLEMS IN WHICH *THEY* ARE INTERESTED? THIS
WOULD REQUIRE MORE INVOLVEMENT OF PEOPLE WITH EXPERIENCE IN THE PARTICULAR
DESIGN PROBLEM. WHY SHOULD STUDENTS FIND THEMSELVES IN A MASTER-APPRENTICESHIP
RATHER THAN BECOMMING MASTERS OF DESIGN ON THEIR ON MERITS AND ABILITIES AND
TALENTS? THE VALUES OF DESIGN COME FROM BOTH INSIDE THE INDIVIDUAL AND
OUTSIDE THE INDIVIDUAL. SO DO THE CONSTRAINTS. EVALUATIONS SHOULD BE DONE
BY THOSE WHO *REALLY* KNOW THE CONTENT AND THE FORM OF PROBLEMS.
>I failed to mention the strong outcry from a majority of the students to keep
>the professor in question. Does this not attest to the fact that the
>young minds being educated in the field of architecture today are open to
>new ideas? Whether these ideas are based on deconstructivism, post
>modernism,
>or contextuallism is regardless of the point. The fact of the matter
>remains that as an institution of higher learning, Cal Poly Pomona must
>continue to expose its students to all forms of architecture and let us , the
>students, decide which path we want to follow.
?
|Cheers!
>fyi...the professor in question was educated by Daniel Liebskind, among
>others. This does not necesarily place him in the catagory of a
>deconstructiv
>ist architect. I have seen far to often in my education the need to place
>architects and their work into catagories so that we may pigeon hole them.
>We, as architects, should be able to evaluate each others' work on their own
>merit.
?
|HOPEFULLY, YES! AS LONG AS THE
PRIMA DONNAS ARE FOLLOWED, THEN INDIVIDUAL MASTERY OF ARCHITECTURE BY
INDIVIDUALS WILL NEVER BE ON THE INDIVIDUAL'S TERMS. HOPEFULLY, ARCHITECTS
WILL BE FAIR TO ONE ANOTHER IN THEIR EVALUATIONS OF ARCHITECTURAL WORK.
EGO CAN CAUSE THIS FAIRNESS TO BE AVOIDED BY MANY ARCHITECTS.
>Henry Lo <---Thanks. Howard
>Architecture student
>Cal Poly Pomona
>This has been forwarded to deisgn-l at psuvm. Howard
>In article <gibsonf1Cp3Lxr.Er1@xxxxxxxxxx>, gibsonf1@xxxxxxxxxx (Frederick
>Clifford Gibson) writes:
>> JONATHAN CARLSON (jmcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote:
>> : The Cal Poly School of Architecture is losing some of its finest
>> : professors. This is due largely to the fact that the tenured "old
>dogs"
>are
>> : getting scared that the students are embracing relatively new design
>> : theories being offered to us. One such professor was the coordinator of
>the
>> : first year curriculum at Cal Poly for at least four years. His strong
>> : emphasis on the developement of design principals and concepts played
>a
>> : major role in the direction of the school. Now, it seems as if the
>> : reigning monarch of the school (dean), as well as his tenured t
>suppor
>> : staff, is not happy with the direction the school was heading in,
>which
>> : by the way was becoming one the best design institutions in the
>nation,
>and
>> : a major loss of talented professors hase taken place. We are now a
>> : school with no direction.
>>
>> Are these "new theories" you mention based on deconstructivism? If they
>are,
>> then your Dean is a wise man indeed for vacinating the virus at its root.
>> A direction towards "disease" is not only foolish, but, in the long run,
>> suicidal.
>>
>> Fred Gibson
>> Designer, KMD Architects - San Francisco
>> gibsonf1@xxxxxxxxxx
>Is it not up to the students to choose which design theories they wish to
>examine and learn from, and the job of an institution to provide as
>diverse a field as possible in which students may make their own
>decisions?
?
|HOW ABOUT INSTITUTIONS PROVIDE
AN ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH FACULTY CAN GUIDE STUDENTS IN THEIR OWN DESIGN
RESEARCH RELATED TO REAL PROBLEMS IN WHICH *THEY* ARE INTERESTED? THIS
WOULD REQUIRE MORE INVOLVEMENT OF PEOPLE WITH EXPERIENCE IN THE PARTICULAR
DESIGN PROBLEM. WHY SHOULD STUDENTS FIND THEMSELVES IN A MASTER-APPRENTICESHIP
RATHER THAN BECOMMING MASTERS OF DESIGN ON THEIR ON MERITS AND ABILITIES AND
TALENTS? THE VALUES OF DESIGN COME FROM BOTH INSIDE THE INDIVIDUAL AND
OUTSIDE THE INDIVIDUAL. SO DO THE CONSTRAINTS. EVALUATIONS SHOULD BE DONE
BY THOSE WHO *REALLY* KNOW THE CONTENT AND THE FORM OF PROBLEMS.
>I failed to mention the strong outcry from a majority of the students to keep
>the professor in question. Does this not attest to the fact that the
>young minds being educated in the field of architecture today are open to
>new ideas? Whether these ideas are based on deconstructivism, post
>modernism,
>or contextuallism is regardless of the point. The fact of the matter
>remains that as an institution of higher learning, Cal Poly Pomona must
>continue to expose its students to all forms of architecture and let us , the
>students, decide which path we want to follow.
?
|Cheers!
>fyi...the professor in question was educated by Daniel Liebskind, among
>others. This does not necesarily place him in the catagory of a
>deconstructiv
>ist architect. I have seen far to often in my education the need to place
>architects and their work into catagories so that we may pigeon hole them.
>We, as architects, should be able to evaluate each others' work on their own
>merit.
?
|HOPEFULLY, YES! AS LONG AS THE
PRIMA DONNAS ARE FOLLOWED, THEN INDIVIDUAL MASTERY OF ARCHITECTURE BY
INDIVIDUALS WILL NEVER BE ON THE INDIVIDUAL'S TERMS. HOPEFULLY, ARCHITECTS
WILL BE FAIR TO ONE ANOTHER IN THEIR EVALUATIONS OF ARCHITECTURAL WORK.
EGO CAN CAUSE THIS FAIRNESS TO BE AVOIDED BY MANY ARCHITECTS.
>Henry Lo <---Thanks. Howard
>Architecture student
>Cal Poly Pomona