[design] design-l.v2 (readme)

* important announcement: please read... *

DESIGN-L Version 2

Hello everyone. This message inaugurates the new
Design-List, Version 2.0, which was established by
current and former Design-L listmembers, to keep
the tradition of open exchange and exploration of
design, art, and architecture available online,
courtesy of Architexturez.net infrastructures.

Design-L.v2 branches off of the original Design-L
project by offering an 'open' forum for discussion
and exchange of ideas, which will be largely free
of moderation unless administrative issues arise;
at which point temporary group moderation may be
required to vote on a solution. These and other
issues will be up for discussion on the new list.


The important difference between Design-L.v2 and
the earlier Design-List is in the approach to the
issues, as both offer different perspectives and
values of the same questions surrounding 'design'.

The list branching into two directions validates
each approach, one moderated by Howard Ray Lawrence
which recalls an earlier era of the Design-List, in
1992, when USENET newsfeeds and other news articles
were a large part of the daily cycle. This editorial
role continues at the original list run by the PSU.

Currently, that list has undergone an administrative
transformation which resulted in conflicting views,
and basic features became off limits; including the
existing list membership. As the 'open' forum became
increasingly 'closed' to other views, it was decided
by a few long term members to start up an alternate
list and keep the freestyle aspect of the list alive.
To do so, the latest list members were located from
an archive and this e-mail is being sent to those
members prior to culling of addresses from the list
which were not acceptable to the restricted policies.

Therefore- the only choice available to continue and
reconstitute the Design-List, version 2.0 was to take
this list of members and sign them up to the new list
by mass subscription, to explain this situation and
these decisions, and to include information for those
who would like to unsubscribe from either of the lists.


* you are now most likely subscribed to both lists *

If you would like to receive content from both lists,
'open' and 'closed', then you need to do nothing...

1) To UNsubscribe from Design-L, moderated by Howard Ray
Lawrence of PSU and akin a USENET feed, send a message to:

e-mail: [email protected]
body: unsubscribe design-l

2) To UNSUBscribe from the new Design-L.V2 mailing list,
an open forum for discussions of art, architecture, and
culture, which is unmoderated and encourages exchanges,
please visit the following url:


* if you want to remain on both lists, then do nothing *


The Design-L.V2 mailing list will be administered by
Brian Carroll, to maintain and rebuild the list itself.
This includes mundane tasks such as list settings, and
some more important ones, such as what this list is
about, what its boundaries are, and how to deal with
issues of conflicting interests; such as the moderation
scheme. It was a group decision to keep the list largely
unmoderated, though when the need for moderators arises,
it is asked that a group of long-time contributors and
others will weigh-in on the list issues by volunteering
now to join a temporary moderators council. It is part
of the agreement reached for running this new list so
please contact me (human (at) electronetwork (dot) org)
and sign-up to participate in our new list environment.
From here on out, send administrative type issues to the
list-owner, and moderation issues onto the list itself.

* Please do not send private messages about the list to
the list administrator, they are not list moderator. *

Other important aspects involved in building out the new
Design-L.v2 list include writing welcome messages and a
longer list description. These issues will be part of a
public discussion and cooperation and compromise will be
much appreciated to get these tasks done and get back to
sharing ideas and not getting bogged down in bureaucracy.

Should the listmembership survive this list transplant,
it is possible to develop the list further with resources
available through the AZ ( http://www.architexturez.net )
architectural-infrastructures, such as a wiki, microsite,
and hosting of papers like its predecessor, Architome.

Let's get this off to a good start, thank Howard for his
stewardship in getting the Design-List community this far,
and continue to benefit by learning through multiple modes
of interaction and sharing of design ideas and imaginations.
Thanks also to the bridgework provided by Anand Bhatt and
for John Young's guidance as co-owner of Design-L to date.
There's a great resource in both the old and new archives
and approaches, and sometimes two lists are better than one.

I hope you stay on the new list and test it out, the fresh
kindling of ideas will help get fire breathing back within
it. And contributions and contributors are always wanted
and needed, so please tell a friend about the new list...

To Post a message, e-mail: [email protected]

Thanks for participating,

Brian Carroll, list administrator

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