I have no idea why intense moderation was ever invoked.
Unless there are lots of awful messages I never saw.
I do alas get the feeling that this whole event kind of
reminds me of the cranky, bickering nature of Arts and
Architecture things I have encountered in the past.
Overall I pretty much lurked on Design-L; I won't actively
unsubscribe from either list at this point. I keep getting
these messages about subscribing under my real name. Ad far
as I know I am subscribed under my real name. It was decided
that cruzrights accounts would be secure but to keep the image
of "hanky-panky" down overall we would use real names.
Overall I want to keep in touch and contact with the world of
Architecture and Design and anything that helps that along without
being a major pain I am pretty much all for. I really like all
the pictures and images on Design-L and hope whatever happens on
any new off shoot this will be continued. I hope that things will
settle down and we can talk about Design and Art and Architecture.
Have Fun,
Sends Steve
> Brian Carroll wrote:
>
>>
>> 1) To UNsubscribe from Design-L, moderated by Howard Ray
>> Lawrence of PSU and akin a USENET feed, send a message to:
>>
>> e-mail: listserv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> body: unsubscribe design-l
>>
>
> Brian, I don't see why people have to unsubscribe from the Design-L.
> Howard Ray Lawrence was a little concerned about this as well. The
> relation between an unmoderated Design-L and a moderated one is not
> resolved, and still is open to a patient discussion.
>
> Attached below is an extract from my conversation with Howard today
> morning... besides what I said there, I also think the Design-L location
> at PSU gives it a strong sense of place, there are strengths built over
> some years which may not have to be surrendered.
>
> I think there are opportunities which should eventually be considered by
> all list members (and perhaps put to vote).
>
> Howard Ray Lawrence wrote:
>
> >
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Anand:
> >
> > In regard to your earlier comments, note the name of this new list,
> > design-l.v2.
> >
> > Also, note that many of the current/former subscribers to Design List
> > have been invited to join.
> >
> > Your views. . .?
> >
> > Howard
> >
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
>
>
> <snip>
>
> I would have called it something else, or at least "Design-L
> (Unmoderated)" if the association to Design-L was important, and then
> used this logic:
>
> up to 2005: One Design-L
>
> after 2005: two forks to Design-L
>
> fork 1: Moderated, the original list
>
> fork 2: Unmoderated, experimental
>
> with a condition that the unmoderated list is used
> by a small group of people to test ideas, make comments which
> might sound offensive, put-up half considered hypothesis etc.;
> with an understanding that once ideas **mature** they would
> be submitted to the moderated list (and a larger audience)
>
> so the moderated list works as a peer reviewed list.
>
> [personal note edited]
>
> I would have used the disagreement to create a system with
> better-quality ideas.
>
> </snip>
>
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