>Mark, I take it you are addressing me when you say....
>
>>the formal necessity for death as a concept...thats an interesting
>>determination I would think that according to the canons of logic
>>in which I am not so schooled death would not be a formally necessary
>>concept if by that one means what is formally necessary for their
>>to be any concepts, such as perhaps identity, relation, possibility
>>but i am to some extent dreaming that may not be what a formally
>>necessary concept even is, but if it is doesnt death have a
>>more empirical less purely lofi sorry logical status?
>>mark hewson
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>
>... so I will respond.
>
>I meant Death as a formal necessity *in* Being and Time. That is, Heidegger,
>while suggesting that his pathway from Dasein towards Being was not the
>*only* route to take (ie, he could have done the same thing using structures
>other than those he used) his use of "death" (and it is a concept when we
>are talking about the concepts he used to describe, or attempt to describe,
>Dasein and Being) was formally necessary to his enterprise. As a concept it
>was necessary for him to invoke his somewhat unique (or possibly totally
>unique) concept of Death (That is, how Death *is* to him - or at least in
>his book) in order to get at Dasein as a whole. The fact that Heidegger's
>concept (what he conceived it as) of Death was a necessary part of the
>logical structure that is the book Being and Time in no way gives Death
>itself (if we accept his view of it) an Empirical status any more than the
>concept of gravity (as worked out by either Aristotle, Newton, or Einstein)
>changes the fact that things fall. I believe that would be to mistake "the
>theory" for the "way things are".
>
>Take that last statement with a grain of salt as it could lead all over the
>place. I hope you know what I mean and do not wish to spark the embers of a
>"theory"/"way things are" discussion even though I know I would have brought
>it upon myself. (I do enough of that for school - this is relaxation - smile).
>
>-Nik
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>>the formal necessity for death as a concept...thats an interesting
>>determination I would think that according to the canons of logic
>>in which I am not so schooled death would not be a formally necessary
>>concept if by that one means what is formally necessary for their
>>to be any concepts, such as perhaps identity, relation, possibility
>>but i am to some extent dreaming that may not be what a formally
>>necessary concept even is, but if it is doesnt death have a
>>more empirical less purely lofi sorry logical status?
>>mark hewson
>
>
>... so I will respond.
>
>I meant Death as a formal necessity *in* Being and Time. That is, Heidegger,
>while suggesting that his pathway from Dasein towards Being was not the
>*only* route to take (ie, he could have done the same thing using structures
>other than those he used) his use of "death" (and it is a concept when we
>are talking about the concepts he used to describe, or attempt to describe,
>Dasein and Being) was formally necessary to his enterprise. As a concept it
>was necessary for him to invoke his somewhat unique (or possibly totally
>unique) concept of Death (That is, how Death *is* to him - or at least in
>his book) in order to get at Dasein as a whole. The fact that Heidegger's
>concept (what he conceived it as) of Death was a necessary part of the
>logical structure that is the book Being and Time in no way gives Death
>itself (if we accept his view of it) an Empirical status any more than the
>concept of gravity (as worked out by either Aristotle, Newton, or Einstein)
>changes the fact that things fall. I believe that would be to mistake "the
>theory" for the "way things are".
>
>Take that last statement with a grain of salt as it could lead all over the
>place. I hope you know what I mean and do not wish to spark the embers of a
>"theory"/"way things are" discussion even though I know I would have brought
>it upon myself. (I do enough of that for school - this is relaxation - smile).
>
>-Nik
>
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