RE: Eminem mosh - Susskind


rene writes,

True, but i'd prefer very much his barking to your feeling sorry.

I thought you would feel this way.


A barking as a result of an impossible situation, points to an
inevitability, a being driven rather than freedom, not?
I think the current notion of freedom is worthy of decaying.
It's now just the freedom of the individual consumer. They say that
Western children have, at the age of 18, consumed 40.000 tv murders.


I think Jan and myself started a discussion of freedom. It seems the will or desire is enslaved by cognition intent on grasping an object as answer to its doubting hindrances that cause it problems that are perceived as having to have a solution. I have been looking through Hanna Arendt's _Life of the Mind_ volume two and she thinks that the domain of the will belongs to the category of causality, "which Heidegger, in agreement with Nietzche, derives from the the willing ego's experiences of causing effects, hence from an illusion produced by consciousness." More than this Nietzsche says that the will is an instinct for punishing and judging. It deprides becoming of its innocence whenver "being in this or that state is traced back to will, to intentions, to accountable acts: the doctrine of the will has been invented essentially for the purpose of punishment, that is of finding guilty" (twilight of the idols, the four great errors). They are accountable because they can be inserted within a cause-effect narrative by a sort of cause-finding drive that Nietzsche writes is the oldest psychology where all events "is an action, every action the effect of a will, the world became for it (the oldest psychology) a multiplicity of agents, an agent ('subject') foisted itself upon every event." (the four great errors). Another error is that a chance occurrrence is given a *human* meaning because following our own image we believe any chance event has to be motivate by a cause or reason. This great convalescent knows from experience that the cause-looking curiosity of this drive is drive by our need to find a meaningful cause to feelings: "every sort of restraint, pressure, tension, explosion in the play and counter-play of our organs, likewise and especially the condition of the nervous sympaticus -- excite our cause-creating drive." In the manner of Hume Nietzsche points that the experience of the impression of previous memories are used in this causal explanation where what is more memory is always the reservoir of utilitarian interests. To begin to understand this construction of consciousness by a utilitarian will is to see what blinds from recognizing the withdrawal and essential swaying of Beyng. Ereignis is completely unexpected and a chance happening which we are not even sure happens because it's a riddle to human understanding. We probably have to have a good sense for an amor fati as Nietzsche says. If we twist free from a subjectivistic or anthropological human comprehension that is always willfully grasping an object by defining its causes through a synthesis of the categories then the liberation of the will is at the same time a submission to necessity, to need, to fate. Here is where we discover the release of a destiny as the differentiation of a non-willed de-cision that is 'free' and that separates sky and earth, gods and mortals creating the pathos that Nietzsche calls *distance* which is to say openness, Ereignis of the truth. As an alternative to the rulership of instrumental reason Arendt writes that we have gellasenheit which she describes as a listening activity that in letting be obeys the call of being and prepares us for thinking that is non-willing. I would say that it is already thinking that is non-wiling. When the discussion turns to questions having to do with understanding how consciousness is constructed in order to comprehend and master events then this is falls under what Heidegger calls the GUIDING question. Once we start to leap or cross over and through another beginning then we are in a GROUNDING question. The history of metaphysics falls under the guiding question whereas destiny or amor fati is the unexpected arrival or 'fall' of a grouding question.
The guiding question as is clear now is a question of questioning, of asking the question "what is a thing". It doesn't matter if the thing is an event we are still treating it as a thing when we inquire in a subjectivistic or human manner or under the subject-predicate order: "... we call the question "What is being?" the *guiding* question, in contrast to the more original question we call the *grounding* question (Nietzsche: volume 2 pg 193 in the English translation)." The leap is that from the human to the overman that is negotiated by listening to Zarathustra's teaching of the most abysmal thought of the eternal recurrence which forever remains a sealed door, a limit, remains the frontier of metaphysical thinking where it gets tied up in a complex system of aporetic knots,-- cloud of ink of an octopus and dark night of propositional discourse! This is the only *chance* we have Rene. I was reading the postings for May 2004 around the time you were talking to Aquino before he left. You were saying the things that needed to be said and I agree with the basic drift and direction of your Heidegger thoughts and objections. You are reading Heidegger well but sometimes you make and encourage all this stupid nonsense that is no more than the expression of subjectivistic opinions. Your discussions with Judes are sometimes and often pure clash of wills and plague of opinions on this list. I don't feel sorry for you in the least bit for getting caught in the trap of an operatic buffoon whom you seem to think is more honest than he is. You are the person the least likely to be intimidated on this list, you always have been but your strong nature gets you into stupid and agressive subjectivitic opinions that are not *grounded* in REAL issues on this list. You are one of the respected elders or senators on this list so I think you should try and act more responsibly and start leading [as should peep, jan, and others...and judes can be the clown] deeper, more serious and esoteric discussions so we can start establishing the production of a conversational circle that we can be proud of belonging to.

Best Wishes,
Ariosto




rene





tympan

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