I thought about this image and metaphor. A body without organs.
The BWO sounds like the ultimate answer to every environmental problem in
the universe indeed. Since the universe is a solitary thing, not surrounded
by anything else, then it would have no need to expell it's wastes as Plato
ruses thoughtfully thru Timaeus, the western world's only cosmological
treatise until Newton's time, a deadpanner in comparison.
Anyway it would have no need to expell it's wastes because it would be able
to 'recycle', 'reuse' and 'reduce' all of what it produces exogenously apart
from it's main purpose which is to 'process' the processible, much like
human and ant factories do.
This is one form of causality for sure: a chain of events, diachronic
syncrecity [sic] - can't spell worth a darn sometimes - nor remember
personal names.
We tend to analyze and explain using dominant forms of paradiqmatic
thinking. Hence there are different modes - if you can appreciate this - of
thinking which are primarily causal. Not all forms of causality are the
same. Those which are 'pre-processive' and non-utilitarian are those at the
top: meditative, unitive, and liberational episodes of 'feeling'; others are
at the bottom, basal forms of engaging in imaginative replays of common
repetitive acts, social and commentative analysis of the 'everyday' forms of
irrationality of - well - let me explain.
Like a senile person who has forgotten where they put the money which they
took out in fear that this would be taken from them; storing up instinct
works, but it also can only work if the storing is a remembering where it
was stored, hidden, right.
First they hide the cash in a spot they think is okay. On second thought
they move this to another location on the chance that someone knows where it
is and is considering taking it. The impulse to remove it causes the senile
person to forget where the new location is. The impulse and 'causal
explanation' for moving the cash in the first place is forgotten, but not
for long. It was hidden because it was believed it was going to be stolen by
an 'intimate' [family friend or even family]
Because they forgot where the cash was hidden, they immediately acuse the
persons they fear who would most likely take the cash: immediate family,
even the dog! And so it goes on in a circle of accusations and allegations
until the cash is discovered accidentally where it was stored.
But eventually logic trips them up. One day they discover that some other
things which they had hidden from view show up during a different search
[it may have been for the peanut butter which was put in the fridge, and
behind that was the credit cards and travellers cheques], causing them to
then realize that they had forgotten where something besides the cash was
hidden. This is admittedly a paradiqmatic form of thinking causally.
Much of discovery is like this. Doing a task at a basal level often leads to
a discovery of something else which is a real revelation, and much of our
intellectual and artistic endeavours are exactly that 'chance discovery',
even serendipitous.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tympan Plato" <daxsein@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <heidegger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 12:42 PM
Subject: metacrap
>
>
> peep,
>
> Fine let's do metacrap. When I was posting on Garfinkel I can't remember
you
> saying anything. I can't find a thing in what I have kept from the week or
> two starting around august 19 where you mention Garfinkel. I have Tudor
only
> showing interest in the sociology of conversation. I don't know if you are
> doing this just to make me step back and make more explicit what is
implicit
> to you and me or maybe it's just too complicated. I don't know. I assume
you
> are even more lucid than me since my thoughts are lost in different books
> than before and only now do I see an overview. But anyway as I look back
my
> last long post to rene on the "dragon motif", BwO, "not-yet-conscious" is
> when I look closely pretty much an improvisational echo and variation on
my
> post of aug 20 (re: membership construction) to Tudor. I'm stapling them
> together right now. No matter how lost I get in a line of research I know
I
> can hook back into an old thread from wherever I am because I never change
> my overall subject which is the way (weg, tao) I am gesturing through
> indicative signs that are evocative. There on Aug. 20 the constitutional
> power of the not-yet-conscious or the intensity of a BwO I was discussing
in
> terms of what the literature on Garfinkel calls the "missing whats" which
> was connected to Schutz's prospective sense of occurrence (Ereignis of
Seyns
> ). These "missing whats" which were concretely refered to as "forthcoming
> movement publications, collectivity membership lists, programmatic tasks,
an
> unfolding consensual vocabulary and other movement promises". Although the
> emphasis is on retention which in Holderlin is the whole process of
> remembrance or anamnesis which passes through an increasingly dark night
of
> knowledge it is operating in tandem with protention (bow) as a tortous or
> corskscrewing intention that makes our feet into ears that dance and sing
> like corybants which gets Hades to release his bloody paws off of
> Persephone! It's a complex network of indicative sings where the
imagination
> operates like Ariadne's thread throughtout a labyrinth in the image, as I
> fancy it, of a creation by Gaudi here http://hanumans.de/gaudi.htm or
> Serre's hermetic Harlequin's robe, or an American quilt and patchwork. The
> general idea is to motivate innovation which is to say the uprising of
> Persephone or a Dionysian rite of spring. I am changing the name of this
> complex system to Dionysus instead of Persephone. It's ah, more logical.
> Dyonisus is a radical research institute doing reasearch as I see it into
> what Walter Benjamin understood the surrealist as doing with their
> exploration of automatic writing or spontenous secretion of nectar which
is
> to say motivating the energetic potential and spark of a transformative
> subject or multitude like a BwO or Indra or Dyonisus -- polyeidos kai
> polymorphos. I have been saying that this means as one of many ways of
> imaging this (which is not the construction of an object but a network of
> indicative sign-making production) that 'we' make like the fox (el zorro
in
> spanish, robin hood, che guevara, the french resistance, dyonisus, BwO,
etc
> and so on and so forth....) Okay I'm back to my old functional
sociological
> self. So when you mention "coversational analysis" this is my reading of
> 'it', the vague it which like an 'object' of research itself or an
emerging
> network of co-operative attunement is invented in the manner to some
extent
> that Garfinkel and his cohorts describe when they describe the sociology
> knowledge in looking at anything from scientist discovering something new
or
> a transvestite constructing her gender. My conceptual persona is clearly a
> neoplatonic orphic-dionysian shaman.You peep sound to me like a quietist
> along the lines of a Molinos or Fenelon for all the talk we get from you
on
> anything resembling productive action. Did you find a copy of The
> Ethnological Movement? I can't see the authors name in the photocopies I
> have. It could take days to find in all my papers and books which I
> hopelessly try to organize. Anyway part of the challenge is developing a
> common bibliography which me and rene have had some success in doing. Also
> challenging is developing a common vocabulary that is sticky. The "bow"
has
> a lot of potential because of it's *translatability* or ability to
transform
> into all sorts of rhetorical devices or into family medals which the
Italian
> renaissance often understood as a bow which gives color, nuance, tone to
any
> cosa nostra kind of thing. The same can be said for Dionysus whose
> translatability or contextshifting and flexibility I have been showing.
I'll
> come back to Italy and the bow later. I was just about to write on this
but
> alas this summary has been useful.
>
> idiot.
>
> tympan
>
> tympan
>
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The BWO sounds like the ultimate answer to every environmental problem in
the universe indeed. Since the universe is a solitary thing, not surrounded
by anything else, then it would have no need to expell it's wastes as Plato
ruses thoughtfully thru Timaeus, the western world's only cosmological
treatise until Newton's time, a deadpanner in comparison.
Anyway it would have no need to expell it's wastes because it would be able
to 'recycle', 'reuse' and 'reduce' all of what it produces exogenously apart
from it's main purpose which is to 'process' the processible, much like
human and ant factories do.
This is one form of causality for sure: a chain of events, diachronic
syncrecity [sic] - can't spell worth a darn sometimes - nor remember
personal names.
We tend to analyze and explain using dominant forms of paradiqmatic
thinking. Hence there are different modes - if you can appreciate this - of
thinking which are primarily causal. Not all forms of causality are the
same. Those which are 'pre-processive' and non-utilitarian are those at the
top: meditative, unitive, and liberational episodes of 'feeling'; others are
at the bottom, basal forms of engaging in imaginative replays of common
repetitive acts, social and commentative analysis of the 'everyday' forms of
irrationality of - well - let me explain.
Like a senile person who has forgotten where they put the money which they
took out in fear that this would be taken from them; storing up instinct
works, but it also can only work if the storing is a remembering where it
was stored, hidden, right.
First they hide the cash in a spot they think is okay. On second thought
they move this to another location on the chance that someone knows where it
is and is considering taking it. The impulse to remove it causes the senile
person to forget where the new location is. The impulse and 'causal
explanation' for moving the cash in the first place is forgotten, but not
for long. It was hidden because it was believed it was going to be stolen by
an 'intimate' [family friend or even family]
Because they forgot where the cash was hidden, they immediately acuse the
persons they fear who would most likely take the cash: immediate family,
even the dog! And so it goes on in a circle of accusations and allegations
until the cash is discovered accidentally where it was stored.
But eventually logic trips them up. One day they discover that some other
things which they had hidden from view show up during a different search
[it may have been for the peanut butter which was put in the fridge, and
behind that was the credit cards and travellers cheques], causing them to
then realize that they had forgotten where something besides the cash was
hidden. This is admittedly a paradiqmatic form of thinking causally.
Much of discovery is like this. Doing a task at a basal level often leads to
a discovery of something else which is a real revelation, and much of our
intellectual and artistic endeavours are exactly that 'chance discovery',
even serendipitous.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tympan Plato" <daxsein@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <heidegger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 12:42 PM
Subject: metacrap
>
>
> peep,
>
> Fine let's do metacrap. When I was posting on Garfinkel I can't remember
you
> saying anything. I can't find a thing in what I have kept from the week or
> two starting around august 19 where you mention Garfinkel. I have Tudor
only
> showing interest in the sociology of conversation. I don't know if you are
> doing this just to make me step back and make more explicit what is
implicit
> to you and me or maybe it's just too complicated. I don't know. I assume
you
> are even more lucid than me since my thoughts are lost in different books
> than before and only now do I see an overview. But anyway as I look back
my
> last long post to rene on the "dragon motif", BwO, "not-yet-conscious" is
> when I look closely pretty much an improvisational echo and variation on
my
> post of aug 20 (re: membership construction) to Tudor. I'm stapling them
> together right now. No matter how lost I get in a line of research I know
I
> can hook back into an old thread from wherever I am because I never change
> my overall subject which is the way (weg, tao) I am gesturing through
> indicative signs that are evocative. There on Aug. 20 the constitutional
> power of the not-yet-conscious or the intensity of a BwO I was discussing
in
> terms of what the literature on Garfinkel calls the "missing whats" which
> was connected to Schutz's prospective sense of occurrence (Ereignis of
Seyns
> ). These "missing whats" which were concretely refered to as "forthcoming
> movement publications, collectivity membership lists, programmatic tasks,
an
> unfolding consensual vocabulary and other movement promises". Although the
> emphasis is on retention which in Holderlin is the whole process of
> remembrance or anamnesis which passes through an increasingly dark night
of
> knowledge it is operating in tandem with protention (bow) as a tortous or
> corskscrewing intention that makes our feet into ears that dance and sing
> like corybants which gets Hades to release his bloody paws off of
> Persephone! It's a complex network of indicative sings where the
imagination
> operates like Ariadne's thread throughtout a labyrinth in the image, as I
> fancy it, of a creation by Gaudi here http://hanumans.de/gaudi.htm or
> Serre's hermetic Harlequin's robe, or an American quilt and patchwork. The
> general idea is to motivate innovation which is to say the uprising of
> Persephone or a Dionysian rite of spring. I am changing the name of this
> complex system to Dionysus instead of Persephone. It's ah, more logical.
> Dyonisus is a radical research institute doing reasearch as I see it into
> what Walter Benjamin understood the surrealist as doing with their
> exploration of automatic writing or spontenous secretion of nectar which
is
> to say motivating the energetic potential and spark of a transformative
> subject or multitude like a BwO or Indra or Dyonisus -- polyeidos kai
> polymorphos. I have been saying that this means as one of many ways of
> imaging this (which is not the construction of an object but a network of
> indicative sign-making production) that 'we' make like the fox (el zorro
in
> spanish, robin hood, che guevara, the french resistance, dyonisus, BwO,
etc
> and so on and so forth....) Okay I'm back to my old functional
sociological
> self. So when you mention "coversational analysis" this is my reading of
> 'it', the vague it which like an 'object' of research itself or an
emerging
> network of co-operative attunement is invented in the manner to some
extent
> that Garfinkel and his cohorts describe when they describe the sociology
> knowledge in looking at anything from scientist discovering something new
or
> a transvestite constructing her gender. My conceptual persona is clearly a
> neoplatonic orphic-dionysian shaman.You peep sound to me like a quietist
> along the lines of a Molinos or Fenelon for all the talk we get from you
on
> anything resembling productive action. Did you find a copy of The
> Ethnological Movement? I can't see the authors name in the photocopies I
> have. It could take days to find in all my papers and books which I
> hopelessly try to organize. Anyway part of the challenge is developing a
> common bibliography which me and rene have had some success in doing. Also
> challenging is developing a common vocabulary that is sticky. The "bow"
has
> a lot of potential because of it's *translatability* or ability to
transform
> into all sorts of rhetorical devices or into family medals which the
Italian
> renaissance often understood as a bow which gives color, nuance, tone to
any
> cosa nostra kind of thing. The same can be said for Dionysus whose
> translatability or contextshifting and flexibility I have been showing.
I'll
> come back to Italy and the bow later. I was just about to write on this
but
> alas this summary has been useful.
>
> idiot.
>
> tympan
>
> tympan
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search!
> http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
>
>
>
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>
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