bobS wrote at the end:
> ps. at the moment usa feeling very '33 ish, ...das volk voted emfatically
> for war, culture war and empire, ...meaning the rest of the world is going
> to feel the lash. apologies
Bob, I've seen this on other lists where amerikans preside: why do you
apologise for the rule of the ambushmen? the problem, imo, with all kinds of
amerika (of whatever persuasion or habitat) is the push(iness), the
forward-motion at any (and every) cost, the (o)pressing on regardless
towards terminal beach and then some... one president might have slowed it a
mite, but either way, it seems to me, the same dreary frenzied movement
(sometimes called 'energy') and adoration of/submission to technology and
its overreaching command of everything. When europa copies this impressive
feat, it too becomes an amerika, a new old world (same as...). Once the
second world was demoralised and made indifferent and the third just a
playground for soldier's games, the one-and-lonely first world is the
desolation of a triumph of the will (to will). Where's the difference? The
commies at least showed some other other...
regards
michaelP
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Haukur Thor Thorvardarson" <a02hauth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <heidegger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 8:13 AM
> Subject: Re: The Non-God in Heideggerian Thought
>
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>> Henk van Tuijl wrote:
>>
>> >> The God who has made his way into philosophy, the God caught in the
>> >> essential metaphysical history of nihilism, governed by the
>> >> onto-theo-logic, is
>> >> furthest removed from the "godless God" Heidegger will pass by with
>> >> the "the last god/s" in "Contributions to Philosophy (from Enowning)"
>> >> (2001).
>> >
>> >
>> >> Who are these god/s that are recognized in primordial Greek
>> >> experience for Heidegger?
>> >
>> >
>> > The God of ontotheology is a Deus faber. The Gods of the Greek appear
>> > at crucial moments in the guise of beings and change the course of the
>> > lives of men and women.
>> >
>> I don't see your point here, even if Zeus would return how would it wake
>> the people up from the nihlisticladen nightmare?
>>
>> And I don't think that Heidegger would even say that the God of
>> ontotheology is a Deus Faber, rather Heidegger here is
>> referring to Meister Eckharts Non-God. That is all our ideas of God are
>> not God, God is unknown to us and we must in a
>> way turn ourselves towards God and be open towards the mystery.
>>
>> /Haukur.
>>
>> > Henk
>> >
>> >
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> ps. at the moment usa feeling very '33 ish, ...das volk voted emfatically
> for war, culture war and empire, ...meaning the rest of the world is going
> to feel the lash. apologies
Bob, I've seen this on other lists where amerikans preside: why do you
apologise for the rule of the ambushmen? the problem, imo, with all kinds of
amerika (of whatever persuasion or habitat) is the push(iness), the
forward-motion at any (and every) cost, the (o)pressing on regardless
towards terminal beach and then some... one president might have slowed it a
mite, but either way, it seems to me, the same dreary frenzied movement
(sometimes called 'energy') and adoration of/submission to technology and
its overreaching command of everything. When europa copies this impressive
feat, it too becomes an amerika, a new old world (same as...). Once the
second world was demoralised and made indifferent and the third just a
playground for soldier's games, the one-and-lonely first world is the
desolation of a triumph of the will (to will). Where's the difference? The
commies at least showed some other other...
regards
michaelP
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Haukur Thor Thorvardarson" <a02hauth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <heidegger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 8:13 AM
> Subject: Re: The Non-God in Heideggerian Thought
>
>
>> Henk van Tuijl wrote:
>>
>> >> The God who has made his way into philosophy, the God caught in the
>> >> essential metaphysical history of nihilism, governed by the
>> >> onto-theo-logic, is
>> >> furthest removed from the "godless God" Heidegger will pass by with
>> >> the "the last god/s" in "Contributions to Philosophy (from Enowning)"
>> >> (2001).
>> >
>> >
>> >> Who are these god/s that are recognized in primordial Greek
>> >> experience for Heidegger?
>> >
>> >
>> > The God of ontotheology is a Deus faber. The Gods of the Greek appear
>> > at crucial moments in the guise of beings and change the course of the
>> > lives of men and women.
>> >
>> I don't see your point here, even if Zeus would return how would it wake
>> the people up from the nihlisticladen nightmare?
>>
>> And I don't think that Heidegger would even say that the God of
>> ontotheology is a Deus Faber, rather Heidegger here is
>> referring to Meister Eckharts Non-God. That is all our ideas of God are
>> not God, God is unknown to us and we must in a
>> way turn ourselves towards God and be open towards the mystery.
>>
>> /Haukur.
>>
>> > Henk
>> >
>> >
>> >
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