In a message dated 23/11/2004 13:03:19 GMT Standard Time,
R.B.M.deBakker@xxxxxx writes:
so in the computer history of 20 july 1944 there was
Churchill to propose to his generals to use poison
gas against the German cities. But the generals
protested: no, not this, this we won't do!
Jud:
I thought that the gas story HAD ended? I thought we had dropped the
question of Nazism and talk of Heidegger's ravening fascism?
I thought we had a moratorium on Heidegger's Gothic political grotesquerie?
Why do you want to keep bringing up the Nazis all the time? ;-)
It's a pity the German generals didn't protest when they discovered what was
going on in the camps and said: *No, not this, we won't do it or allow it,"
It's also a pity that the fifteen men, didn't say *No, not this, we won't do
this,* I speak of the fifteen eminent Nazi bureaucrats who attended the
meeting, when Heidegger's hero Hitler proposed, [at the Wannesee Conference] to
use poison gas against the Jews, gays and Gypsies of the Fatherland, when the
mass murder of the Jewish race and many other actions of the Holocaust were
decided.
Rene:
and maybe saved Heidegger's life by it...
Jud:
More's the pity. ;-)
Rene:
Freiburg was bombed only very late (and very unnecessary)
and short on 27 November 1944. 300 English planes, 14.000
bombs in 20 minutes. 2800 people dead, 4000 injured.
city ruined (take a touristic view) Heidegger and the cathedral
unharmed
Jud:
That's peanuts compared with Liverpool, Manchester, Birmingham.
Maybe they wanted to bomb the *Being* out of Heidegger?
Rene:
but he could also already be gone, he must have had a good
intuition for danger, otherwise, as a German living in the first
half of the 20st century, one has not much chance to stay out
unharmed.
Jud:
They were the ones who attacked weaker nations first and initiated both
world wars.
Having said that - Churchill was a psychopath - and we British NEEDED a
psychopath to fight
the enemy psychopaths. As for the Dutch - they had their psychopaths too -
more Dutch traitors
enlisted with the Wehrmacht [or the Dutch Freikorp or whatever they called
it] than ANY OTHER EUROPEAN NATION.
Rene:
You see now, i warned Jud, but he had to make his point with
Heidegger and gas. But it's all very different.
no?
Jud:
Whatever rhetoric you employ Rene doesn't change the fact that the twisted
little runt Heidegger
was in WW1 involved in gas attacks on allied troops, and in WW2 he supported
a political party who gassed 6-million innocent people.
Maybe he had a *thing* about death and gassing people? Perhaps that's why
they locked him up in the insane asylum? I don't know
you tell me? Please don't keep bringing up this subject of the Nazis all
the time Rene - everybody knows already he was a Nazi goon-
we don't need the constant reminders. ;-) Heidegger's Nazism is BORING -
but since you brought it up again,
I would MUCH rather you explained the problem of the unity and singularity
of *Being* as *presence* in relation to the plurality of the entities that
understand *Being,* or in Heideggerese - *those that think it,* and thereby
instantiate it, and how you reconcile the unity of the *Being* of poison-gas
as it was *thought* and instantiated by Hitler, his apparatus and the guys
who dropped the Zyklon B canisters from above, and the different version of
the *unity of the *Being* of poison-gas, as understood and *thought* by the
hundreds of naked screaming women and children sliding around in their own shit
in the *bath-house* chamber below?
Rene:
and Fallujah? and 100.000 women and children? And the excuse
to do that? The gas?
Jud:
Ask the Americans who just re-elected Bush - the ball's in their court now.
They voted for *more of the same,* and I think they have unknowingly reaped
the whirlwind in doing so.
Regards,
Jud
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