>From: "Henk van Tuijl" <hvtuijl@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: <heidegger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: The heidegger list - PLEASE READ
>Date: Fri, Nov 26, 2004, 5:55 pm
>
> Dear Malgosia,
>
> Thanks for the opportunities offered by this list during the years of its
> existence.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Henk van Tuijl
Moi aussi!
regards
michael pennamacoor
>
>
> From: "malgosia askanas" <ma@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <heidegger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 6:45 PM
> Subject: The heidegger list - PLEASE READ
>
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> This is to let you know that in about two weeks I intend to close down
>> the
>> heidegger list. This decision is part of a wider set of decisions
>> having
>> to do with the present circumstances of the Spoon Collective - which,
>> as you
>> probably know, has been running this list.
>>
>> The Spoon Collective, of which I am the sole surviving founder, has
>> been
>> operating continually for over 10 years. Of the 8 people who currently
>> constitute it, 3 have been in it basically from the very beginning, and
>> almost
>> all the others for almost as long.
>>
>> When the Spoon Collective was originally created, a crucial aspect of
>> its life
>> was our own passionate involvement in the lists we created or took
>> over.
>> As vehicles for bringing into mutual contact and confrontation
>> thinking
>> people from all over the computerized world - people from astoundingly
>> different walks of life and with astoundingly different ways of
>> thinking,
>> but with a shared passion for more accurate perception and deeper
>> understanding
>> - these lists seemed to us to present a stupendous potential for
>> evolving
>> new modes of thought and new modes of life. And it is essential to
>> note that
>> when we were motivated by a thirst for new modes of thought and life,
>> it was
>> for _ourselves_ that we wanted them. Our project was not about
>> providing a
>> public or academic or political service, discharging a societal duty,
>> or
>> providing platforms for this or that political organization or
>> orientation -
>> rather, it was about changing life - the life we think and live - right
>> at the
>> present moment.
>>
>> Over the years, however, our relationship with our lists gradually
>> changed,
>> and we now find our collective endeavor basically reduced to an
>> indifferent
>> performance of a not-excessively-bothersome piece of labor. The
>> reasons for
>> this are undoubtedly complex - the first and simplest one, perhaps,
>> being that
>> the same group of people has been doing the same thing for 10 years.
>> If our
>> goal had been less the stability of existing lists and more the
>> preservation
>> of our own passion, we probably could have done better. In any case,
>> we find
>> ourselves a bunch of burnt out and apathetic bureaucrats.
>>
>> I personally find thie prolongation of this situation no longer
>> tolerable or
>> sensical. As a result, I have (1) announced that I am quitting the
>> Spoon
>> Collective; (2) decided to close down a number of lists that I have
>> been
>> responsible for; and (3) declared the end of the Spoon Collective as a
>> certain historic formation, and stipulated that the name no longer be
>> used for
>> whatever the present members may undertake in the future.
>>
>> I, of course, cannot judge the value of any particular list from any
>> perspective but my own - and neither would I want to. Only each of you
>> can
>> decide whether you value this list enough to step in and recreate it
>> somewhere
>> else. If any of you wants to do this, I can make available to you a
>> copy
>> of the subscription list, a tarred and gzipped copy of the archive, and
>> software support for a smooth transition. The present list will stop
>> operating
>> around December 10th.
>>
>> A number of the other members of Spoon have expressed an interest in
>> either
>> continuing their present lists or initiating other collective projects
>> at
>> Virginia. We very much hope that no matter what develops, the Spoon
>> archives,
>> which, in large part, constitute an eminently useful and fascinating
>> resource,
>> can continue to be housed in their present location. In addition, a
>> copy
>> of the archives is being installed at the domain driftline.org, where
>> they
>> will soon be accessible over the Web. If anybody would like to house
>> additional copies of the full or individual archives elsewhere, this
>> would
>> of course increase the goodness.
>>
>>
>> Yours,
>> -malgosia
>>
>>
>> --- from list heidegger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ---
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> --- from list heidegger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ---
>
--- from list heidegger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ---
>To: <heidegger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: The heidegger list - PLEASE READ
>Date: Fri, Nov 26, 2004, 5:55 pm
>
> Dear Malgosia,
>
> Thanks for the opportunities offered by this list during the years of its
> existence.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Henk van Tuijl
Moi aussi!
regards
michael pennamacoor
>
>
> From: "malgosia askanas" <ma@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <heidegger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 6:45 PM
> Subject: The heidegger list - PLEASE READ
>
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> This is to let you know that in about two weeks I intend to close down
>> the
>> heidegger list. This decision is part of a wider set of decisions
>> having
>> to do with the present circumstances of the Spoon Collective - which,
>> as you
>> probably know, has been running this list.
>>
>> The Spoon Collective, of which I am the sole surviving founder, has
>> been
>> operating continually for over 10 years. Of the 8 people who currently
>> constitute it, 3 have been in it basically from the very beginning, and
>> almost
>> all the others for almost as long.
>>
>> When the Spoon Collective was originally created, a crucial aspect of
>> its life
>> was our own passionate involvement in the lists we created or took
>> over.
>> As vehicles for bringing into mutual contact and confrontation
>> thinking
>> people from all over the computerized world - people from astoundingly
>> different walks of life and with astoundingly different ways of
>> thinking,
>> but with a shared passion for more accurate perception and deeper
>> understanding
>> - these lists seemed to us to present a stupendous potential for
>> evolving
>> new modes of thought and new modes of life. And it is essential to
>> note that
>> when we were motivated by a thirst for new modes of thought and life,
>> it was
>> for _ourselves_ that we wanted them. Our project was not about
>> providing a
>> public or academic or political service, discharging a societal duty,
>> or
>> providing platforms for this or that political organization or
>> orientation -
>> rather, it was about changing life - the life we think and live - right
>> at the
>> present moment.
>>
>> Over the years, however, our relationship with our lists gradually
>> changed,
>> and we now find our collective endeavor basically reduced to an
>> indifferent
>> performance of a not-excessively-bothersome piece of labor. The
>> reasons for
>> this are undoubtedly complex - the first and simplest one, perhaps,
>> being that
>> the same group of people has been doing the same thing for 10 years.
>> If our
>> goal had been less the stability of existing lists and more the
>> preservation
>> of our own passion, we probably could have done better. In any case,
>> we find
>> ourselves a bunch of burnt out and apathetic bureaucrats.
>>
>> I personally find thie prolongation of this situation no longer
>> tolerable or
>> sensical. As a result, I have (1) announced that I am quitting the
>> Spoon
>> Collective; (2) decided to close down a number of lists that I have
>> been
>> responsible for; and (3) declared the end of the Spoon Collective as a
>> certain historic formation, and stipulated that the name no longer be
>> used for
>> whatever the present members may undertake in the future.
>>
>> I, of course, cannot judge the value of any particular list from any
>> perspective but my own - and neither would I want to. Only each of you
>> can
>> decide whether you value this list enough to step in and recreate it
>> somewhere
>> else. If any of you wants to do this, I can make available to you a
>> copy
>> of the subscription list, a tarred and gzipped copy of the archive, and
>> software support for a smooth transition. The present list will stop
>> operating
>> around December 10th.
>>
>> A number of the other members of Spoon have expressed an interest in
>> either
>> continuing their present lists or initiating other collective projects
>> at
>> Virginia. We very much hope that no matter what develops, the Spoon
>> archives,
>> which, in large part, constitute an eminently useful and fascinating
>> resource,
>> can continue to be housed in their present location. In addition, a
>> copy
>> of the archives is being installed at the domain driftline.org, where
>> they
>> will soon be accessible over the Web. If anybody would like to house
>> additional copies of the full or individual archives elsewhere, this
>> would
>> of course increase the goodness.
>>
>>
>> Yours,
>> -malgosia
>>
>>
>> --- from list heidegger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ---
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> --- from list heidegger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ---
>
--- from list heidegger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ---