Re: [mpisgmedia] rules of data collection for your study


I too am uncomfortable with students being asked to get information through
RTI. Some of the information needed was available on the net. For the rest
and considering this is a recurrent requirement every semester for one area
or another in Delhi,I have discussed this within my department and am taking
this up with the School Authorities for persual with Delhi Govt. and other
organisations so that it can resolved institutionally.

poonam

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gita Dewan Verma" <mpisgplanner@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Master plan issues in media" <mpisgmedia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [mpisgmedia] rules of data collection for your study


> not quite converging. i think there are fundamental
> flaws in RTI approach to 'transparency' which make it
> prone to becoming instrument for spamming the system
> (like PIL is slipping into becoming instrument of
> things contrary to its intended purposes).
>
> RTI may be here to stay, but it is not mandatory! we
> could use the fact that it exists as proof of
> commitment to transparency to shore up other access to
> info options if we prefer those, also so they do not
> atrophy in the shadow of RTI.
>
> a logical discussion of student info needs at SPA
> might not lead to the NAC drafted sub-clause of
> sub-section at all and there is nothing that prevents
> institutions from mutually agreeing other regimes for
> info access. nor is there any basis for assumption of
> adversarial starting point just because some
> RTI-smitten chap in a gnctd that has lost all its
> bearings in prolonged extra-constitutional fashionable
> gvnnce drift, asked some students to fill Form-A! dda
> for instance is rather generous with info and time to
> students and so are several other agencies. i would
> much rather we build on those friendly foundations.
>
> --- sarbajit roy <sroy1947@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > So parallel lines are converging!
> >
> > Section 4(1)(b)(xiii) particulars of recipients of
> > concessions, permits or authorisations granted by
> > it;
> > of the RTI ACT includes this already ... just have
> > to
> > fight.
> >
> > Otherwise the RT ACT 2005 is a horribly bad piece of
> > legislation rammed through by the idiots at the NAC
> > who will no doubt be suitably rewarded for having
> > sold
> > out by being appointed Chief or Information
> > Commissioners.
> >
> > The Delhi RTI Act is so much better, and i am
> > informed
> > that the Maharashtra one was quite effective too.
> >
> > Sarbajit
> >
> > --- Gita Dewan Verma <mpisgplanner@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > --- sarbajit roy <sroy1947@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Just as a student ought not to crib that he is
> > > > required to "book" a reference journal from his
> > > > library, similarly a normal waiting period of 15
> > > > days
> > > > is not too bad for any formal process.
> > >
> > > > Insofar as students are concerned, I think
> > > > concessional photocopying charges could be
> > > > considered
> > >
> > > ---------
> > > Prashant, Subhadeep, others at SPA
> > >
> > > do persuade SPA authorities to raise such points.
> > > unless all types of info-users raise their issues,
> > > normative principles for RTI for different
> > purposes
> > > will not evolve.
> > >
> > > gita
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
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