Correction: Good People = Jokers
----- Original Message -----
From: "sarbajit roy" <sroy1947@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Master plan issues in media" <mpisgmedia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [mpisgmedia] MPD2021: Sinister Subversions: The Full Monty
> Nonsense,
>
> Game is ...
>
> INDIA = King,
> Constitution = Queen,
> Judiciary = Rooks (Castle)
> Good People = Bishops
>
> DMP = very minor character .. a walk on role in this
> comedy of manners alongwith those other persons you
> list.
>
> You and me = gadfly Knights jumping about without
> purpose...
>
> So what u want do ? Resign ? If you have free time
> Gita - read the Constitution and read it well ... We
> all have a right to speak - a right to be informed -
> its not carved in stone in DMP, but in the
> Constitution and in our bones. If DDA thinks they can
> gag us - well they cant. So there ...
>
> The problem is time .. Everything is on hold because
> of MPD2021 shenanigans, NCR Plan is held up becoz of
> this, all those vested lobbies just racing to beat the
> clock and get their wishes granted under the old
> DMP2001 etc. etc.
>
> Sarbajit
>
> --- Gita Dewan Verma <mpisgplanner@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > this IS endgame. when hearings are over dmp2021 will
> > become de-facto dmp regardless of any delay in
> > notification.
> >
> > I think you see this as a game about DDA, other-side
> > king that we have to check-mate. I see it is a game
> > about DMP, king besides which DDA ought to have been
> > queen, and gnctd, mcd, ndmc, itpi, spa, duac, tcpo,
> > etc, the 2+ point pieces. all of them are somehow
> > reduced to pawns for the other side (made of those
> > who
> > subvert equity and efficiency and safeguards /
> > guarantees and are found equally in Govt, NGO,
> > professions, business, politics, wherever). the game
> > can not be according to rules till our pieces are
> > reclaimed. we cannot break the board and walk away,
> > it
> > is our board. we cannot drag *them* on to our turf,
> > they are standing on our turf.
> >
> > for DDA I prefer s.41(3) to RTI (we need
> > intervention
> > to heal not information to kill). for sanjhaNGOs
> > (also
> > ITPI, PHDCC, etc, which are structurally same), RTI
> > would be very nice, but I have the impression they
> > are
> > above it. They are not?
> >
> >
> >
> > --- sarbajit roy <sroy1947@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Gita,
> > >
> > > Thanks for a very detailed post.
> > >
> > > We are still in middle game (chesswise) and NOT
> > > trapped. When the game is not played by the Rules
> > -
> > > break the board, walk away and drag them onto your
> > > turf.
> > >
> > > 1) Writing long letters etc. may not work - there
> > is
> > > already enough documentation to show engagement.
> > > It's
> > > time for telegrams (obtain certified copies by
> > > paying
> > > Rs. 3 extra) to Prez (as Central Government),
> > short
> > > 1
> > > page leters to LG, AKJain(as secy Enquiry Board),
> > > then
> > > its time for the Real Monty.
> > >
> > > 2) Another route is also open (you wont like this
> > > one), you can file RTIs "now" under the new law.
> > > This
> > > saves 10 days. Here are the details - it would be
> > > interesting to see if DDA is prepared for the RTI
> > > onslaught. Asian Age had it today.
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.asianage.com/main.asp?layout=2&cat1=7&cat2=48&newsid=184492&RF=De
faultMain
> > >
> > > Here's another link (BETTER) to it since Asian Age
> > > link stpos working after 24 hours due to poor
> > > webdesign technology.
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cyberlaw-india/message/2147
> > >
> > > I am facing the same problem about procedural
> > > bypassing in my fight against the Information
> > > Technology Act 2005 amendments.
> > >
> > > Sarbajit
> > >
> > > --- Gita Dewan Verma <mpisgplanner@xxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > An illegal Board has started today illegal
> > > NGO-style
> > > > hearings at PHD House and VPSingh/Sajha-Munch,
> > who
> > > > have made illegal demand for their nominee to be
> > > on
> > > > Board, plan to protest bureaucratic-style
> > > > functioning
> > > > outside DDA Vikas Sadan. we are trapped between
> > > two
> > > > illegal choices. we know we have been trapped.
> > > what
> > > > will we do now? *now*. the endgame has begun.
> >
> > ...
> >
> > > > Do please browse the urls in this post.
> >
> >
> http://mail.architexturez.net/+/MPISG-Media/archive/msg00575.shtml
> >
> >
> >
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----- Original Message -----
From: "sarbajit roy" <sroy1947@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Master plan issues in media" <mpisgmedia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [mpisgmedia] MPD2021: Sinister Subversions: The Full Monty
> Nonsense,
>
> Game is ...
>
> INDIA = King,
> Constitution = Queen,
> Judiciary = Rooks (Castle)
> Good People = Bishops
>
> DMP = very minor character .. a walk on role in this
> comedy of manners alongwith those other persons you
> list.
>
> You and me = gadfly Knights jumping about without
> purpose...
>
> So what u want do ? Resign ? If you have free time
> Gita - read the Constitution and read it well ... We
> all have a right to speak - a right to be informed -
> its not carved in stone in DMP, but in the
> Constitution and in our bones. If DDA thinks they can
> gag us - well they cant. So there ...
>
> The problem is time .. Everything is on hold because
> of MPD2021 shenanigans, NCR Plan is held up becoz of
> this, all those vested lobbies just racing to beat the
> clock and get their wishes granted under the old
> DMP2001 etc. etc.
>
> Sarbajit
>
> --- Gita Dewan Verma <mpisgplanner@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > this IS endgame. when hearings are over dmp2021 will
> > become de-facto dmp regardless of any delay in
> > notification.
> >
> > I think you see this as a game about DDA, other-side
> > king that we have to check-mate. I see it is a game
> > about DMP, king besides which DDA ought to have been
> > queen, and gnctd, mcd, ndmc, itpi, spa, duac, tcpo,
> > etc, the 2+ point pieces. all of them are somehow
> > reduced to pawns for the other side (made of those
> > who
> > subvert equity and efficiency and safeguards /
> > guarantees and are found equally in Govt, NGO,
> > professions, business, politics, wherever). the game
> > can not be according to rules till our pieces are
> > reclaimed. we cannot break the board and walk away,
> > it
> > is our board. we cannot drag *them* on to our turf,
> > they are standing on our turf.
> >
> > for DDA I prefer s.41(3) to RTI (we need
> > intervention
> > to heal not information to kill). for sanjhaNGOs
> > (also
> > ITPI, PHDCC, etc, which are structurally same), RTI
> > would be very nice, but I have the impression they
> > are
> > above it. They are not?
> >
> >
> >
> > --- sarbajit roy <sroy1947@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Gita,
> > >
> > > Thanks for a very detailed post.
> > >
> > > We are still in middle game (chesswise) and NOT
> > > trapped. When the game is not played by the Rules
> > -
> > > break the board, walk away and drag them onto your
> > > turf.
> > >
> > > 1) Writing long letters etc. may not work - there
> > is
> > > already enough documentation to show engagement.
> > > It's
> > > time for telegrams (obtain certified copies by
> > > paying
> > > Rs. 3 extra) to Prez (as Central Government),
> > short
> > > 1
> > > page leters to LG, AKJain(as secy Enquiry Board),
> > > then
> > > its time for the Real Monty.
> > >
> > > 2) Another route is also open (you wont like this
> > > one), you can file RTIs "now" under the new law.
> > > This
> > > saves 10 days. Here are the details - it would be
> > > interesting to see if DDA is prepared for the RTI
> > > onslaught. Asian Age had it today.
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.asianage.com/main.asp?layout=2&cat1=7&cat2=48&newsid=184492&RF=De
faultMain
> > >
> > > Here's another link (BETTER) to it since Asian Age
> > > link stpos working after 24 hours due to poor
> > > webdesign technology.
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cyberlaw-india/message/2147
> > >
> > > I am facing the same problem about procedural
> > > bypassing in my fight against the Information
> > > Technology Act 2005 amendments.
> > >
> > > Sarbajit
> > >
> > > --- Gita Dewan Verma <mpisgplanner@xxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > An illegal Board has started today illegal
> > > NGO-style
> > > > hearings at PHD House and VPSingh/Sajha-Munch,
> > who
> > > > have made illegal demand for their nominee to be
> > > on
> > > > Board, plan to protest bureaucratic-style
> > > > functioning
> > > > outside DDA Vikas Sadan. we are trapped between
> > > two
> > > > illegal choices. we know we have been trapped.
> > > what
> > > > will we do now? *now*. the endgame has begun.
> >
> > ...
> >
> > > > Do please browse the urls in this post.
> >
> >
> http://mail.architexturez.net/+/MPISG-Media/archive/msg00575.shtml
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________
> > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
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> >
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> >
>
>
>
>
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