huh? officers doing 42-week LDMC at CDM on
study-visit to shastri park publicised as
army-learning-management-from-metro were under-cover
civil-defence inspectors?!
I maintain the decision (or, as stated, propensity)
does affect the public. I have not avoided but asked
about fee/charges under s.4(1)c that could be higher
due to cost of publishing or lower like PIL (I learnt
that from a TV journo) than 10/ for info for private
use u/s.6. and am sure there are defects since I have
not found anywhere rules re s.4(1)c, as stated, etc
re RTI s.4(1)c over s.6, etc, maybe anon.
btw1:
anyone know CDM eml? id on its web-page does not work.
btw2:
metroPD / s.11A case reached day-end and after some
argument was listed for 14/11/05. stay on amusement at
shastri park continues. afterwards dda supplied us on
addnl affidavit summary of (all) IT Park public notice
responses and (common) observation of some special
screening board.
--- sarbajit roy <sroy1947@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dear Gita,
>
> This is misuse of the noble RTI ACT and deserves to
> be
> thrown out at first opportunity. The matters you are
> highlighting (visit of Army brass to Shastri Park)
> are
> neither "policy decisions" / nor "decisions
> affecting
> the public". I notice that you have also evaded the
> Rs.10 fee prescribed under the Act - so the PIO is
> not
> bound to consider your request. There are also
> numerous other formal defects in your request.
>
> Certainly you are entitled u/s 6 to the "opinions"
> and
> other "information" concerning the Army visit,
> however
> the PIO at DMRC would be perfectly justified in
> rejecting your request on grounds of national
> security. so please dont waste yr 10 rupees.
>
> This is the problems with "neophytes" (smile) in RTI
> who spam the system and create trouble for
> "pioneers"
> like me. <rol>
>
> I have 3 pending RTIs and all are extremely prickly.
>
> Since you are so keen about RTI now, have you ever
> considered that the office of the LG (being both a
> Competent Authority / Public Authority) is also
> covered under RTI 2005 ;-) With so many land related
> matters being carried out in his name, I am sure the
> poor fellow would be pleased to answer detailed
> queries from experts like us on how he functions !!!
> the MoUD PIO is in room no. 140 Nirman Bhawan - some
> Jt. Secy.
>
> Sarbajit
>
> --- Gita Dewan Verma <mpisgplanner@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >
> > To: Shri Anuj Dayal, CPRO DMRC Ltd, designated PIO
> > on:
> >
>
http://www.delhimetrorail.com/corporates/public_information.html
> > via e-mail to e-mail id (anuj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
> > provided at:
> >
>
http://www.delhimetrorail.com/corporates/contact.html
> >
> > Sub: Request to receive information (for
> > rectification) of omission under s.4(1)c of Right
> To
> > Information Act, 2005, viz, non-publication of
> > relevant facts pertaining to decision to host on
> > 18.10.05 a study visit for senior officers of the
> > armed forces from the LDMC course at College of
> > Defence Management, Secunderabad
> >
> > Ref: News item titled "Army officers plan metro
> > ride"
> > published in The Hindu dated 18.10.05, available
> at:
> >
> >
>
http://www.hindu.com/2005/10/18/stories/2005101809700400.htm
> >
> > Sir,
> >
> > Among RTI Act provisions that came into force on
> > 15.06.05 is: "4 (1) Every public authority shall -
> > ...
> > (c) publish all relevant facts while formulating
> > important policies or announcing the decisions
> which
> > affect public".
> >
> > According to the news item under reference, "An
> > officer of the rank of major general and 10 of the
> > rank of colonel will Delhi Metro on Tuesday... to
> > learn about its management style ... they will
> first
> > spend an hour with the Managing Director ... be
> > taken
> > to the Central Secretariat metro station and from
> > there they will board an underground train... The
> > next
> > stopover will be at the Operational Control Centre
> > (OCC) at Shastri Park... Then at Shastri Park
> Depot
> > the officials will be given a feel of what goes on
> > behind the scenes... in the culminating phase, the
> > officials would carry out project studies to find
> > solutions to the challenges being faced by the
> > defence
> > services...".
> >
> > I have not been able to locate on DMRC website any
> > published facts pertaining to its decision,
> > announced
> > by the press on 18.10.05, to host this visit to,
> > primarily, Shastri Park on 18.10.05.
> >
> > You are requested to receive this communication as
> > information of omission under s.4(1)c of the RTI
> > Act,
> > 2005, and you are requested to rectify the said
> > omission by publishing forthwith on DMRC website
> all
> > relevant facts relating to the said decision,
> which
> > affects public on account of the following:
> >
> > (a) Shastri Park is central to WP (C) No.
> 6500/2005
> > (Gita Dewan Verma v/s DMRC & Ors), in which DMRC's
> > plans for further development on the site have
> been
> > stayed and counter-affidavits filed reveal gross
> > illegalities in all prior development. The matter
> is
> > listed for hearing by the Hon'ble High Court on
> > 19.10.05.
> >
> > (b) Shastri Park is the site for which DMRC had
> > approached the Hon'ble Court last year for
> > directions
> > for encroachment removal, claiming urgent public
> > utility work, after a representation for stopping
> > its
> > own illegal construction there was forwarded for
> > appropriate action to its chairman by Hon'ble
> > President of India, who is also the Supreme
> > Commander
> > of the Armed Forces.
> >
> > I believe an impropriety has occurred and I do not
> > believe that the College of Defence Management
> would
> > have participated in it knowingly. Nor is this the
> > first time that DMRC has, in effect, misled our
> > premier institutions. In my afore-mentioned
> petition
> > it has become clear how DMRC veritably manipulated
> > conceptual / provisional clearances from DUAC,
> CWC,
> > etc, and then misused these to claim their
> approval
> > of
> > its illegal commercial constructions at Shastri
> > Park.
> > This propensity affects us because it undermines
> the
> > credibility of our premier institutions, including
> > DMRC itself.
> >
> > I also request that you let me know forthwith: (a)
> > if
> > you have any hesitation in publishing this
> > information, and (b) fee/charges for processing
> this
> > request, as I am unaware of Rules relating to
> > s.4(1)c
> > of the RTI Act.
> >
> > Thanking you
> >
> > Yours sincerely
> > Gita Dewan Verma, Planner
> > 1356, DI, Vasant Kunj, New Delhi - 110070
> > Ph: 26895840, 26132921
> > e-mail: mpisgplanner@xxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > cc: for information
> >
> > College of Defence Management
> > Bolaram Post, Secunderabad 500 010
> > eml: cdm@xxxxxxxxx
> >
> > mpisgmedia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > Information about WP (C) 6500/2005 available at:
> > http://plan.architexturez.net/site/mpisg/p/metro
> >
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study-visit to shastri park publicised as
army-learning-management-from-metro were under-cover
civil-defence inspectors?!
I maintain the decision (or, as stated, propensity)
does affect the public. I have not avoided but asked
about fee/charges under s.4(1)c that could be higher
due to cost of publishing or lower like PIL (I learnt
that from a TV journo) than 10/ for info for private
use u/s.6. and am sure there are defects since I have
not found anywhere rules re s.4(1)c, as stated, etc
re RTI s.4(1)c over s.6, etc, maybe anon.
btw1:
anyone know CDM eml? id on its web-page does not work.
btw2:
metroPD / s.11A case reached day-end and after some
argument was listed for 14/11/05. stay on amusement at
shastri park continues. afterwards dda supplied us on
addnl affidavit summary of (all) IT Park public notice
responses and (common) observation of some special
screening board.
--- sarbajit roy <sroy1947@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dear Gita,
>
> This is misuse of the noble RTI ACT and deserves to
> be
> thrown out at first opportunity. The matters you are
> highlighting (visit of Army brass to Shastri Park)
> are
> neither "policy decisions" / nor "decisions
> affecting
> the public". I notice that you have also evaded the
> Rs.10 fee prescribed under the Act - so the PIO is
> not
> bound to consider your request. There are also
> numerous other formal defects in your request.
>
> Certainly you are entitled u/s 6 to the "opinions"
> and
> other "information" concerning the Army visit,
> however
> the PIO at DMRC would be perfectly justified in
> rejecting your request on grounds of national
> security. so please dont waste yr 10 rupees.
>
> This is the problems with "neophytes" (smile) in RTI
> who spam the system and create trouble for
> "pioneers"
> like me. <rol>
>
> I have 3 pending RTIs and all are extremely prickly.
>
> Since you are so keen about RTI now, have you ever
> considered that the office of the LG (being both a
> Competent Authority / Public Authority) is also
> covered under RTI 2005 ;-) With so many land related
> matters being carried out in his name, I am sure the
> poor fellow would be pleased to answer detailed
> queries from experts like us on how he functions !!!
> the MoUD PIO is in room no. 140 Nirman Bhawan - some
> Jt. Secy.
>
> Sarbajit
>
> --- Gita Dewan Verma <mpisgplanner@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >
> > To: Shri Anuj Dayal, CPRO DMRC Ltd, designated PIO
> > on:
> >
>
http://www.delhimetrorail.com/corporates/public_information.html
> > via e-mail to e-mail id (anuj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
> > provided at:
> >
>
http://www.delhimetrorail.com/corporates/contact.html
> >
> > Sub: Request to receive information (for
> > rectification) of omission under s.4(1)c of Right
> To
> > Information Act, 2005, viz, non-publication of
> > relevant facts pertaining to decision to host on
> > 18.10.05 a study visit for senior officers of the
> > armed forces from the LDMC course at College of
> > Defence Management, Secunderabad
> >
> > Ref: News item titled "Army officers plan metro
> > ride"
> > published in The Hindu dated 18.10.05, available
> at:
> >
> >
>
http://www.hindu.com/2005/10/18/stories/2005101809700400.htm
> >
> > Sir,
> >
> > Among RTI Act provisions that came into force on
> > 15.06.05 is: "4 (1) Every public authority shall -
> > ...
> > (c) publish all relevant facts while formulating
> > important policies or announcing the decisions
> which
> > affect public".
> >
> > According to the news item under reference, "An
> > officer of the rank of major general and 10 of the
> > rank of colonel will Delhi Metro on Tuesday... to
> > learn about its management style ... they will
> first
> > spend an hour with the Managing Director ... be
> > taken
> > to the Central Secretariat metro station and from
> > there they will board an underground train... The
> > next
> > stopover will be at the Operational Control Centre
> > (OCC) at Shastri Park... Then at Shastri Park
> Depot
> > the officials will be given a feel of what goes on
> > behind the scenes... in the culminating phase, the
> > officials would carry out project studies to find
> > solutions to the challenges being faced by the
> > defence
> > services...".
> >
> > I have not been able to locate on DMRC website any
> > published facts pertaining to its decision,
> > announced
> > by the press on 18.10.05, to host this visit to,
> > primarily, Shastri Park on 18.10.05.
> >
> > You are requested to receive this communication as
> > information of omission under s.4(1)c of the RTI
> > Act,
> > 2005, and you are requested to rectify the said
> > omission by publishing forthwith on DMRC website
> all
> > relevant facts relating to the said decision,
> which
> > affects public on account of the following:
> >
> > (a) Shastri Park is central to WP (C) No.
> 6500/2005
> > (Gita Dewan Verma v/s DMRC & Ors), in which DMRC's
> > plans for further development on the site have
> been
> > stayed and counter-affidavits filed reveal gross
> > illegalities in all prior development. The matter
> is
> > listed for hearing by the Hon'ble High Court on
> > 19.10.05.
> >
> > (b) Shastri Park is the site for which DMRC had
> > approached the Hon'ble Court last year for
> > directions
> > for encroachment removal, claiming urgent public
> > utility work, after a representation for stopping
> > its
> > own illegal construction there was forwarded for
> > appropriate action to its chairman by Hon'ble
> > President of India, who is also the Supreme
> > Commander
> > of the Armed Forces.
> >
> > I believe an impropriety has occurred and I do not
> > believe that the College of Defence Management
> would
> > have participated in it knowingly. Nor is this the
> > first time that DMRC has, in effect, misled our
> > premier institutions. In my afore-mentioned
> petition
> > it has become clear how DMRC veritably manipulated
> > conceptual / provisional clearances from DUAC,
> CWC,
> > etc, and then misused these to claim their
> approval
> > of
> > its illegal commercial constructions at Shastri
> > Park.
> > This propensity affects us because it undermines
> the
> > credibility of our premier institutions, including
> > DMRC itself.
> >
> > I also request that you let me know forthwith: (a)
> > if
> > you have any hesitation in publishing this
> > information, and (b) fee/charges for processing
> this
> > request, as I am unaware of Rules relating to
> > s.4(1)c
> > of the RTI Act.
> >
> > Thanking you
> >
> > Yours sincerely
> > Gita Dewan Verma, Planner
> > 1356, DI, Vasant Kunj, New Delhi - 110070
> > Ph: 26895840, 26132921
> > e-mail: mpisgplanner@xxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > cc: for information
> >
> > College of Defence Management
> > Bolaram Post, Secunderabad 500 010
> > eml: cdm@xxxxxxxxx
> >
> > mpisgmedia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > Information about WP (C) 6500/2005 available at:
> > http://plan.architexturez.net/site/mpisg/p/metro
> >
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