Hi Nidhi,
I am so glad that [apparently] you dont subscribe to Mr Pai's "organically grown urban area" thesis. Mr.Pai it seems (from my internet (re)searches) is some sort of transport planner (like dedicated High Capacity Bus routes) and stuff like that.
As indiatogether says " Madhav Pai is a Senior Transport Planner at Dowling Associates Inc., in Oakland, California. During the last six months he has been with Egovernments Foundation in Bangalore, helping to establish the transport planning group there (full disclosure: India Together editor Ashwin Mahesh leads this research group)." As such I (being an avowedly non-plannerly type) am puzzled how these Western mixed land use ideals are compatible with the BRT models (Brazil ???) which these indiatogether type NGOs are also peddling.
http://www.indiatogether.org/2006/may/eco-brts.htm
As a non-planner who had quite a bit to say to the DDA in draft MPD-2021 process, wide-spread unregulated unplanned Mixed Land Use is an unmitigated disaster - and the hastily notified MPD-2001 MLU chapter bears this out, pandering as it does to the vote-bank lobbies, and leaving no place for the concerned citizens in section 11-A process.
Anyway I am also glad that Mumbai shall now have its own Reliance Metro.
Nidhi Jamwal <nidhi@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Thanks a lot Mr Sarabjit Roy for your kind words [as always].
I did not know that when someone posts an article on this list, that has
appeared somewhere else in media [and authored by someone else], it is
taken for granted that the person posting it subscribes to that view
point. Thanks for correcting me and hopefully the other list members.
Nidhi
> I must commend Nidhi for bringing this howlarious piece of journalism to
> our list's notice. The photographs accompanying the article truly bring
> out how encroachments and misuse of land by small shop keepers and
> illegal hawkers have brought India closer to the ideal mixed land use
> that is allegedly so desirable in the West. As Lalu Yadav allegedly said
> "give me 3 years (or 3 CSE's) and I shall make Singapore into Bihar"
>
> Nidhi Jamwal wrote: Emphasis on mixed use needed :
> Our organically grown urban areas are very
> close
> to being the ideal mixed-land-use places that the West is now attempting
> to
> create. To leverage this phenomenon, there must be incentives to encourage
> development in the inner cities instead of in sprawling suburbs, writes
> Madhav Pai.
> http://www.indiatogether.org/2006/jun/gov-mixeduse.htm
>
>
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I am so glad that [apparently] you dont subscribe to Mr Pai's "organically grown urban area" thesis. Mr.Pai it seems (from my internet (re)searches) is some sort of transport planner (like dedicated High Capacity Bus routes) and stuff like that.
As indiatogether says " Madhav Pai is a Senior Transport Planner at Dowling Associates Inc., in Oakland, California. During the last six months he has been with Egovernments Foundation in Bangalore, helping to establish the transport planning group there (full disclosure: India Together editor Ashwin Mahesh leads this research group)." As such I (being an avowedly non-plannerly type) am puzzled how these Western mixed land use ideals are compatible with the BRT models (Brazil ???) which these indiatogether type NGOs are also peddling.
http://www.indiatogether.org/2006/may/eco-brts.htm
As a non-planner who had quite a bit to say to the DDA in draft MPD-2021 process, wide-spread unregulated unplanned Mixed Land Use is an unmitigated disaster - and the hastily notified MPD-2001 MLU chapter bears this out, pandering as it does to the vote-bank lobbies, and leaving no place for the concerned citizens in section 11-A process.
Anyway I am also glad that Mumbai shall now have its own Reliance Metro.
Nidhi Jamwal <nidhi@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Thanks a lot Mr Sarabjit Roy for your kind words [as always].
I did not know that when someone posts an article on this list, that has
appeared somewhere else in media [and authored by someone else], it is
taken for granted that the person posting it subscribes to that view
point. Thanks for correcting me and hopefully the other list members.
Nidhi
> I must commend Nidhi for bringing this howlarious piece of journalism to
> our list's notice. The photographs accompanying the article truly bring
> out how encroachments and misuse of land by small shop keepers and
> illegal hawkers have brought India closer to the ideal mixed land use
> that is allegedly so desirable in the West. As Lalu Yadav allegedly said
> "give me 3 years (or 3 CSE's) and I shall make Singapore into Bihar"
>
> Nidhi Jamwal wrote: Emphasis on mixed use needed :
> Our organically grown urban areas are very
> close
> to being the ideal mixed-land-use places that the West is now attempting
> to
> create. To leverage this phenomenon, there must be incentives to encourage
> development in the inner cities instead of in sprawling suburbs, writes
> Madhav Pai.
> http://www.indiatogether.org/2006/jun/gov-mixeduse.htm
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> mpisgmedia mailing list
> http://mail.architexturez.net/mailman/listinfo/mpisgmedia + Planning
> collaborative at http://plan.architexturez.org/
>
>
>
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> rates.
> _______________________________________________
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> collaborative at http://plan.architexturez.org/
>
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Nidhi Jamwal
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DOWN TO EARTH
705, Panorama Tower
Prathamesh Complex
Opp. Country Club
Veera Desai Road
Andheri (W)
Mumbai 400058
India
Mobile: +91 - 9867213234
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