>libby wrote:
>
>> but ideology doesn't just "come from above," nor does it arise
>> and propagate itself by "a culture stamping it into individuals."
>> were that the case, ideology could indeed be tossed out the
>> window with the author, truth, and the autonomous subject. thing
>> is, *individuals make and participate in ideology just as much as
>> they receive it*.
>
>I just wanted to note my agreement with this, as against Aden's
>model of "stamping". I see the relationship between ideology and
>individuals as a complex ecological system. Nevertheless, it is
>sometimes desirable to attempt to trace the journey of some
>particular, often artificially isolated, element through the system.
>The usefulness of the term "ideology" is similar to that of, say,
>"the Earth's atmoshpere".
>
>
>- malgosia
The ecological metaphors make sense to me. So here's another shot at the
ideology/transcendance/immanence/culture discussion: In What is Philosophy?
Deleuze marks that "everything" is real, in immanence. With that
position, he
he does away with transcendence, but where does that leave ideology?
Surely not as a floater hovering over this immanence. But does this do
away with "ideology"? And discussions of ideology in cultures seems to
preclude such dismissal; and so it might be helpful to see ideology as a
set of practices which helps us retain the idea but place it immanence. I
think this sits well with malgosia's suggesting that it part of the
ecological system.
Pradeep
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>
>> but ideology doesn't just "come from above," nor does it arise
>> and propagate itself by "a culture stamping it into individuals."
>> were that the case, ideology could indeed be tossed out the
>> window with the author, truth, and the autonomous subject. thing
>> is, *individuals make and participate in ideology just as much as
>> they receive it*.
>
>I just wanted to note my agreement with this, as against Aden's
>model of "stamping". I see the relationship between ideology and
>individuals as a complex ecological system. Nevertheless, it is
>sometimes desirable to attempt to trace the journey of some
>particular, often artificially isolated, element through the system.
>The usefulness of the term "ideology" is similar to that of, say,
>"the Earth's atmoshpere".
>
>
>- malgosia
The ecological metaphors make sense to me. So here's another shot at the
ideology/transcendance/immanence/culture discussion: In What is Philosophy?
Deleuze marks that "everything" is real, in immanence. With that
position, he
he does away with transcendence, but where does that leave ideology?
Surely not as a floater hovering over this immanence. But does this do
away with "ideology"? And discussions of ideology in cultures seems to
preclude such dismissal; and so it might be helpful to see ideology as a
set of practices which helps us retain the idea but place it immanence. I
think this sits well with malgosia's suggesting that it part of the
ecological system.
Pradeep
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