In a message dated 15/07/2004 20:30:49 GMT Standard Time,
michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>From: GEVANS613@xxxxxxx
>To: heidegger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: I need an Example of Phenomenology???
>Date: Thu, Jul 15, 2004, 5:13 pm
>
> In a message dated 15/07/2004 17:06:38 GMT Standard Time,
> [email protected]_ (mailto:michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
writes:
>
> Michael writes:
> OK, rant away, but where is the example the man asked for?
>
>
> Jud:
> Examples? That's it — end of story — a phenomenologist is anyone who
> performs the ontological lunacy of deliberately bracketing out [applying
the
> blinkers or blinders] regarding any available, relative information or
conversancy
> concerning apprehended insensate/sensate objects WHICH INCLUDES the known
> unfolding of events involved in the birth, growth, background, influences,
> development, history, and entitic record of animal or HUMAN objective
entities.
> He or she is participating in a philosophical seance/farce that we know
and
> hate as "phenomenology."
> What's that? You want an example of the perverse conclusions arrived at
by
> this method? Pick any crime you like and the criminal is a
phenomenologist.
> ALL criminal acts, whether they be reprehensible political acts, social
acts,
> racial acts, sexual acts, environmental acts, etc., are examples of the
> perversion called "phenomenology" in action. Why? Because a human being
is an
> entity, and if the humanity of that entity is bracketed out - ignored —
neglected
> — unheeded — unnoticed — discounted — dismissed — brushed off —
> disregarded, then ANY type of inhuman crime is possible.
>
> Haven't we all heard the phenomenologists before?
>
> " I don't care if he IS a human being: He's a Black/Gay/Iraqui/
> American/Catholic/Palestinian/Jew/ Moslem/ Christian/ Ku Klux Klansman/ ,
etc.
and THAT
> is all that counts. I DON'T WANT TO KNOW about his:
> father/mother/upbringing/school/disabilities/sexual
> orientation/poverty-stricken childhood/mental
> history/etc — what's that got to do with a [phenomenologist] guy like me?
Shoot
> the Black/Gay/Iraqui/American/Catholic/Palestinian/Jew/Moslem/Chris Klux
> Klansman/bastard!
>
> Cheers,
OK, rant away if that turns you on and everyone else off, but what about an
actual example of phenomenology from an actual phenomenologist! You've so
very obviously read so very much, it should not be difficult for your
immense intellect and erudition to just offer the man an example of it, huh?
The above was not by any phenomenologist I've ever been acquainted with (and
was not an example anyway just another rant like yours): who was it? Give us
a real example from a real phenomenologist (Hussel, Heidegger, Merleau
Ponty, Schutz, Bachelard, etc) in order to prove your point about
criminality etc!
mP
Jud:
No one on earth can provide an "example" of "phenomenology," cos' like every
other "ology" it doesn't exist — it's an ACTIVITY.
Only phenomenologists exist, that is those berks who indulge in the sort of
brain activity which is communicated as phenomenological
notions to others. In that sense the roll-call of nutters you mention are
examples of such people. In other words phenomenology is an abstraction
abstracted out of the brains of abstractionists. Two real examples
[complete with "Bracketing" ] can be seen at
_http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/articles/h/gallery/hingeandbracket_12990014
77_1.shtml_
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/articles/h/gallery/hingeandbracket_1299001477_1.shtml)
which is one of the best photographs of Husserl and his one-time acolyte
Heidegger I have seen.
If anybody wishes to read stuff by phenomenologists they can visit my
website Athenaeum Library, where they will find stuff by
Husserl, Heidegger and Merleau Ponty.
As to wrote the above — why it was me of course — tearing away as usual at
the cobwebs of confusion woven by the nauseating Nazi paladin of
phenomenology.
Cheers,
Jud.
>
> Yeh, what is phenomenology? Phenomenology is a way of life — a poisonous
> doctrine of despair which has seeped like an effluent overflow into the
basement
> of the human brain. It is a way of interfacing with objects in which
> considerations of objective reality are not taken into account, and
logicality,
> correct and valid reasoning and common-sense are redacted and put on
"hold."
> Following the oxymoronic "clever fool" Husserl, objects are viewed through
the
> bathetic medium of an ontological Ouija board. Rather than sensibly
> contemplating a contextual entity — the object is examined shorn of its
actual and
> background reality as an entitic holism with a historical origin, rootage
and
> source. Juxtapositional relationships are ignored together with the other
> entities and circumstances with which it has been and is associated in its
> existential modes. Heidegger filched the idea and plugged it into the
rectal
socket of
> his "Dasein" the twittering Tweedle De of dumb Transcendentalism. All in
all
> the phenomenological approach represents the verdigris-covered baton of
> philosophical juvenilia handed over by a worn-out western religion, as a
fellow
> competitor in a relay race based upon man's rush to reach the winning-post
of
> nescience.
>
> Survey just about any crime, outrage, murder, massacre, holocaust,
atrocity,
> inhumanity and they can all be laid at the door of this obscene and
> pernicious doctrine and "way of life" in which the circumstances of
verifiable
> realness and objectivity are not admitted in any consideration of the
truth or
> validity of something, but rather they are bracketed out, not considered,
> ignored. What is phenomenology? It's a modern medievalism — an obscene
outrage to
> human sensibility and intellectuality!
>
> Cheers,
>
>
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michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>From: GEVANS613@xxxxxxx
>To: heidegger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: I need an Example of Phenomenology???
>Date: Thu, Jul 15, 2004, 5:13 pm
>
> In a message dated 15/07/2004 17:06:38 GMT Standard Time,
> [email protected]_ (mailto:michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
writes:
>
> Michael writes:
> OK, rant away, but where is the example the man asked for?
>
>
> Jud:
> Examples? That's it — end of story — a phenomenologist is anyone who
> performs the ontological lunacy of deliberately bracketing out [applying
the
> blinkers or blinders] regarding any available, relative information or
conversancy
> concerning apprehended insensate/sensate objects WHICH INCLUDES the known
> unfolding of events involved in the birth, growth, background, influences,
> development, history, and entitic record of animal or HUMAN objective
entities.
> He or she is participating in a philosophical seance/farce that we know
and
> hate as "phenomenology."
> What's that? You want an example of the perverse conclusions arrived at
by
> this method? Pick any crime you like and the criminal is a
phenomenologist.
> ALL criminal acts, whether they be reprehensible political acts, social
acts,
> racial acts, sexual acts, environmental acts, etc., are examples of the
> perversion called "phenomenology" in action. Why? Because a human being
is an
> entity, and if the humanity of that entity is bracketed out - ignored —
neglected
> — unheeded — unnoticed — discounted — dismissed — brushed off —
> disregarded, then ANY type of inhuman crime is possible.
>
> Haven't we all heard the phenomenologists before?
>
> " I don't care if he IS a human being: He's a Black/Gay/Iraqui/
> American/Catholic/Palestinian/Jew/ Moslem/ Christian/ Ku Klux Klansman/ ,
etc.
and THAT
> is all that counts. I DON'T WANT TO KNOW about his:
> father/mother/upbringing/school/disabilities/sexual
> orientation/poverty-stricken childhood/mental
> history/etc — what's that got to do with a [phenomenologist] guy like me?
Shoot
> the Black/Gay/Iraqui/American/Catholic/Palestinian/Jew/Moslem/Chris Klux
> Klansman/bastard!
>
> Cheers,
OK, rant away if that turns you on and everyone else off, but what about an
actual example of phenomenology from an actual phenomenologist! You've so
very obviously read so very much, it should not be difficult for your
immense intellect and erudition to just offer the man an example of it, huh?
The above was not by any phenomenologist I've ever been acquainted with (and
was not an example anyway just another rant like yours): who was it? Give us
a real example from a real phenomenologist (Hussel, Heidegger, Merleau
Ponty, Schutz, Bachelard, etc) in order to prove your point about
criminality etc!
mP
Jud:
No one on earth can provide an "example" of "phenomenology," cos' like every
other "ology" it doesn't exist — it's an ACTIVITY.
Only phenomenologists exist, that is those berks who indulge in the sort of
brain activity which is communicated as phenomenological
notions to others. In that sense the roll-call of nutters you mention are
examples of such people. In other words phenomenology is an abstraction
abstracted out of the brains of abstractionists. Two real examples
[complete with "Bracketing" ] can be seen at
_http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/articles/h/gallery/hingeandbracket_12990014
77_1.shtml_
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/articles/h/gallery/hingeandbracket_1299001477_1.shtml)
which is one of the best photographs of Husserl and his one-time acolyte
Heidegger I have seen.
If anybody wishes to read stuff by phenomenologists they can visit my
website Athenaeum Library, where they will find stuff by
Husserl, Heidegger and Merleau Ponty.
As to wrote the above — why it was me of course — tearing away as usual at
the cobwebs of confusion woven by the nauseating Nazi paladin of
phenomenology.
Cheers,
Jud.
>
> Yeh, what is phenomenology? Phenomenology is a way of life — a poisonous
> doctrine of despair which has seeped like an effluent overflow into the
basement
> of the human brain. It is a way of interfacing with objects in which
> considerations of objective reality are not taken into account, and
logicality,
> correct and valid reasoning and common-sense are redacted and put on
"hold."
> Following the oxymoronic "clever fool" Husserl, objects are viewed through
the
> bathetic medium of an ontological Ouija board. Rather than sensibly
> contemplating a contextual entity — the object is examined shorn of its
actual and
> background reality as an entitic holism with a historical origin, rootage
and
> source. Juxtapositional relationships are ignored together with the other
> entities and circumstances with which it has been and is associated in its
> existential modes. Heidegger filched the idea and plugged it into the
rectal
socket of
> his "Dasein" the twittering Tweedle De of dumb Transcendentalism. All in
all
> the phenomenological approach represents the verdigris-covered baton of
> philosophical juvenilia handed over by a worn-out western religion, as a
fellow
> competitor in a relay race based upon man's rush to reach the winning-post
of
> nescience.
>
> Survey just about any crime, outrage, murder, massacre, holocaust,
atrocity,
> inhumanity and they can all be laid at the door of this obscene and
> pernicious doctrine and "way of life" in which the circumstances of
verifiable
> realness and objectivity are not admitted in any consideration of the
truth or
> validity of something, but rather they are bracketed out, not considered,
> ignored. What is phenomenology? It's a modern medievalism — an obscene
outrage to
> human sensibility and intellectuality!
>
> Cheers,
>
>
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