In a message dated 21/07/2004 13:07:20 GMT Standard Time,
michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>From: GEVANS613@xxxxxxx
>To: heidegger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Martin Heidegger - National Socialism as the Custodian of Being
>Date: Wed, Jul 21, 2004, 10:40 am
>
> Michael:
> I have had that text on my website for a long time. I obtained it from a
> right-wing site
!!!
> to which I was originally directed which I have forgotten, but
> as Heidegger is hero-worshipped by modern Nazis, and being something of a
> role-model for modern fascists, his piece which is titled: "Martin
Heidegger
-
> National Socialism as the Custodian of Being"
It's NOT called that by Heidegger!
Jud:
Then you must blame that on your hero's Nazi pals — not me.
THEY obviously regard "Being" as being the "Being" which is nestled in the
custodianship of National Socialism.
Where did they get this idea?
(1) From the fact that he was a fanatical and very active Nazi?
(2) From the statements he made regarding Hitler?
(3) From the fact that he never apologised for his evil deeds?
(4) From the fact that he referred to the camps and the gas chambers as
factory farms or some such disgusting
metaphor?
> can be found on most Neo-Nazi
> websites such as for example:
>
> _http://www.oswaldmosley.com/background/custodian_of_being.htm_
> (http://www.oswaldmosley.com/background/custodian_of_being.htm)
>
> The fact that Heidegger is lionised by the modern neo-Nazis is quite
> frightening,
Michael:... as is the fact that YOU, Judbaby, REPUBLISH the neo-nazis'
subtitle for
this out-of-context fragment: such a piece of re-publishing (if it remains
unchanged) is an example of disgraceful tabloidism and shamefully dishonest
scholarship [caps for emphasis].
Jud:
In that case I will add a note pointing out that the Nazis have
[significantly] added this subtitle, which is not Heidegger's original, because they
obviously consider Heidegger's version of [the spurious] "Being" wheeze to
relate to Whittlers and European fascism, and that whilst sundry academics and
Heidegger groupies loudly insist that Heidegger's works were not Nazi inspired
or orientate - THEY DO consider their fellow Nazi Party member and hero's
oeuvre to be EXACTLY THAT!
With this telling and highly significant caveat in place Heidegger's words
can be left to speak for themselves as a form of self-condemnation.
Michael:
Now you KNOW that the subtitling (etc) is
commentary by neo-nazis, perhaps you could give it the proper reference
(e.g., NO subtitle, Heidegger did not write that or any other subtitle... or
at least give the subtitling its neo-nazi provenance); it even begins
mid-sentence!); otherwise, you are complicit in the neo-nazis' scumbag
scheme of things (of which you curiously know so much...); why you would
take the scumbags' view on things is beyond me. And in any case, what did
you mean to SAY in/with this well-known quotation from _Introduction to
Metaphysics_?
Jud:
Don't be crackers Michael - you know damn well I am an anti-Nazi and do NOT
"take their view on things"
You are being personally abusive instead of facing up to the fact of WHY the
Nazis claim him for their own and WHY they consider it important to
reproduce the dumbo Heidegger's works all over the Internet?
Michael:
You might do well to really study this important book by Heidegger since it
presents the argument that being might mean absolutely nothing (which you
present in a simplistic and totalitarian way as if this were the only thing
one could say;
Jud:
But he HASN'T GOT A CLUE about "Being" — he ADMITS IT OPENLY in Basic
Concepts.
I could have told you that "Being" doesn't exist and means absolutely zilch
years ago, but you kept chunking on about "Being" this — and "Being" that.
Michael:
Heidegger presents the case for being being nothing in both a
historical and philosophical context of increasing tension with philosophy's
love affair with being and non-being, which still, though faintly and flatly
reverberates even in your nominalistique iterations of
Jud:
It only "reverberates even in my nominalistique iterations of existence and
non-existence because I keep denying the terms as meaningless fantasies.
Believe it not there still remain even in this day and age philosophical
dinosaurs who still hold to the faith that
existence and non-existence are viable notions.
Michael:
If you wish to ask any questions given your close reading of
this entire book, do not hesitate to ask me (or others on the list) since I
am quite familiar with this text; I doubt whether your neo-nazi 'associates'
have themselves bothered to read the 99% of the rest of his text either...
Jud:
What EXACTLY do you mean by "your neo-nazi 'associates'? YOU are the one
here who associates himself intellectually, spiritually and philosophically with
a Nazi - NOT ME!
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