Re: do we need to speak clearly?

Andrew Chrystall wrote:
>
> Daniel Haines wrote:
> > this all this bickering is obscuring these (i think) interesting
> > issues... any thoughts, anyone??do we need to speak clearly?
> >
> Dear Daniel
> PLease ecuse the quotation but I cannot do nay better myself...
> The enlightened posses understanding
> So profound that they cannot be understood
> Becasue they cannot be understood
> I can only describe their appearance:
>
> Cautious as one crossing thin ice,
> Undecided as one surrounded by danger,
> Modest as one who is a guest,
> Unbounded as melting ice,
> Genuine as unshaped wood,
> Broad as a valley,
> Seamless as muddy water.
>
> Who stills the water that the mud may settle,
> Who seeks to stop so taht he migt travel on,
> Who desires less that what might transpire,
> DEcays but will not renew.
>
> - LaO TZe (TaoDeChing)
>
> surely true clarity is by definition impossible, needed or otherwise
>

andrew,

thank you for posting this...

funnily, although it hadn't entered my head in relation to this thread,
this is one of the passages i return to often is my Tao Te Ching. is
this from an online version/do you know of any? i've long been fasciated
by the wide variety of the translations available and always like to
read different ones....

dan h.

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Ware ware Karate-do o shugyo surumonowa,
Tsuneni bushido seishin o wasurezu,
Wa to nin o motte nashi,
Soshite tsutomereba kanarazu tasu.

We who study Karate-do,
Should never forget the spirit of the samurai,
With peace, perseverance and hard work,
We will reach our goal without failure.

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