Re: ARCHITECTURE: Ratings of USA Schools.

The lists below posted by TSAI need to be clarified with the criteria for
judging (i.e. who and what makes these decisions). To create a list of
"the best" architecture schools in the US is as assupmtive and
generalizing as trying to list the best engineering, law, or medical
schools. Is that civil engineering, obstetrics, or international law.
The umbrella of "architecture" has as many varied sub-disciplines as any
other profession. I have attended four different schools (BSArch,
BArch, a semester as an exchange student, and MSArchDes) over a seven
year period and all of them have offered very unique and different
understandings of what architecture is. Although every student should
receive some level of a liberal arts education, the entering student
should consider hwo much specialization they want to under take and what
area of emphasis that would be in.

The Newsweek list of grad schools was:

1. Harvard
2. Princeton
3. Columbia and Yale (tie)
4. MIT

I'm very bothered by the undergrad list and the position (or omission)
that some very good design oriented schools are set in at.

NOTHING BEATS GOING TO VISIT A SCHOOL FOR YOURSELF.
There are some very good schools in every region of the country and a
student can attend an excellent school and study with lame teachers and
vice versa. My attitude towards my education was set in place by a
couple of very good first year teachers at a school that isn't in the
"top twenty-five" below. If anyone wants to post their inquiries to my
address I'll give them my own personal OPINIONS.

Brian.
btr1@xxxxxxxxxxxx


On Thu, 31 Mar
1994, Howard Ray Lawrence 814 238 9535 wrote:

> - - The original note follows - -
>
> From: tsai0017@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Brian Tsung-Han Tsai-1)
> Subject: ratings of architecture schools
> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 07:54:16 GMT
>
> seems like there's a number of people out there looking to get into
> architecture and are wondering about 'good' schools...here's a rating of
> undergraduate and graduate arch. programs in the U.S., ENJOY!!
>
>
> undergrad
> 1. UC Berkeley
> 2. MIT
> 3. Carnegie-Mellon
> 4. Princeton
> 5. Cornell
> 6. Michigan (Ann Harbor)
> 7. Illinois (Urbana)
> 8. Georgia Tech
> 9. Rice
> 10. Southern Cal (USC)
> 11. Texas (Austin)
> 12. Pratt (N.Y.)
> 13. Minnesota (Twin Cities)
> 14. Cinncinati
> 15. Kansas
> 16. Oklahoma
> 17. Rensselaer (N.Y.)
> 18. Arizona
> 19. Washington (Seattle)
> 20. Washington (St. Louis)
>
> some other programs include 24 Oregon (Eugene) 25 Ohio State 26 Virginia
> 29 Nortre Dame, 30 Miami (Florida) 35 Penn State (Univ. Park)
> 36 Syracuse, 37 Tulane and 40 NC State (Raleigh)
>
> SOURCE: The Gourman Report, A Rating of Undergraduate Programs in America
> and International Universities by Dr. J Gourman 8th Ed. 1993
>
> Grad
>
> 1. Harvard
> 2. MIT
> 3. Princeton
> 4. UCB
> 5. U Penn
> 6. Carnegie-M
> 7. U Mich
> 8. Georgia T
> 9. Rice
> 10. Columbia (NY)
> 11. Texas (Austin)
> 12. Yale
> 13. Washinton (Seattle)
> 14. UCLA
> 15. Texas A&M (college station)
> 16. Ohio State
> 17. Illinois
> 18. V.P.I & State U
> 19. Oregon
> 20. Arizona State
> 21. Washington (St. Louis)
> 22. Hawaii (manoa)
> 23. Florida (Gainsville)
> 24. Rensselaer (NY)
> 25. N Mexico
> 26. Houston (Univ Park)
> 27. Virginia (Charlottesville)
> 28. Minnesota
> 29. Oklahoma (Norman)
> 30. wisconson (milwaukee)
>
> SOURCE: The Gourman Report, A Rating Of Graduate and Professional Programs
> in America and International Universities By Dr. Jack Gourman, National
> Education Standards 6th Ed. 1993
>
>
> Also the recent issue (last week?) of U.S. New and World Reports had a
> section on ratings of graduate programs which included a short list of
> architecture schools. Don't remember the exact list, but a bit similar to
> the one I have, Harvard, UCB, U Penn, U Mich are some of the the top
> 'winners'....
>

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