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Mark Darrall wrote:
> At 12:42 PM 11/29/99 -0500, Steve wrote:
> >steve now wonders:
> >
> >Judging from the above excerpt and the rest of Mark's post, it seems that
> >Afro-American neighborhoods are still largely thought of as inner-city
> >poverty level neighborhoods.
>
> Yes. But not necessarily by me! :-) That's why I specifically did not
> mention particular ethnic groups. In Pittsburgh, where I grew up, many of
> the most vital, yet "not affluent", neighborhoods were historically NOT
> African-American. Irish, Polish, Slovak, Jewish, Italian, German families
> stayed more or less near their like neighbors. Some of those neighborhoods
> are still occupied by those same groups, some several generations deep.
>
> > My point was that there are now many, many
> >thriving middle-class Afro-American neighborhoods within city limits, and
> >moreover that these neighborhoods are mostly ignored by the architecture and
> >urban field at large. Nevertheless, these urban communities are very
> >integrated in terms of land-use and density, but not integrated in terms of
> >race.
>
> Whatever is allowing these neighborhoods to succeed needs to be studied and
> exported. Perhaps the racial integration will happen as the neighborhood
> evolves further. But maybe it won't? If not, why?
>
> Hmmm...
Mark Darrall wrote:
> At 12:42 PM 11/29/99 -0500, Steve wrote:
> >steve now wonders:
> >
> >Judging from the above excerpt and the rest of Mark's post, it seems that
> >Afro-American neighborhoods are still largely thought of as inner-city
> >poverty level neighborhoods.
>
> Yes. But not necessarily by me! :-) That's why I specifically did not
> mention particular ethnic groups. In Pittsburgh, where I grew up, many of
> the most vital, yet "not affluent", neighborhoods were historically NOT
> African-American. Irish, Polish, Slovak, Jewish, Italian, German families
> stayed more or less near their like neighbors. Some of those neighborhoods
> are still occupied by those same groups, some several generations deep.
>
> > My point was that there are now many, many
> >thriving middle-class Afro-American neighborhoods within city limits, and
> >moreover that these neighborhoods are mostly ignored by the architecture and
> >urban field at large. Nevertheless, these urban communities are very
> >integrated in terms of land-use and density, but not integrated in terms of
> >race.
>
> Whatever is allowing these neighborhoods to succeed needs to be studied and
> exported. Perhaps the racial integration will happen as the neighborhood
> evolves further. But maybe it won't? If not, why?
>
> Hmmm...