> From: Van Varga <vanvarga@xxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: "Basic and applied design (Art and
> Architecture)"<DESIGN-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 15:12:15 -0800
> To: DESIGN-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: plain guantanamo
>
>> From: Derek Thornton <lists@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>> It is well ventilated and well drained and there is adequate
>> provision for daylight to enter. Easily cleanable toilet
>> facilities have been provided, including one redundant
>> bucket, plus a fresh change of clothing.
>
> A perfect example of instrumental reason. And profoundly irrational in its
> devotion to a mechanistic solution conceived in limited time and space, as
> if the matter at hand were free-standing. Common sense and ethics have
> been marginalized. Any outrage exhibited at the use of these structures
> rages against the contrast between the complexity of reality and the naive,
> childlike self-confidence of the false rationality causing them to be built
> and used.
>
> The argument causing them to be built is the always deceptively convincing
> one of utility, need, and fairness. It always proceeds from a short-term
> close-up position and is justified as being rational. The claim of
> rationality keeps us focused in close-up onto symptoms and distanced far
> away from causes. In meeting this goal the designer and his/her masters
> have exhibited genius (but only in the target market for their ideas). That
> the short-term, logical, linear, instrumental nature of this solution, and
> the context in which it is embedded, is the root of the problem may never be
> dealt with by our civilization.
>
> //Van
I doubt if any other would. ( suppose you referred here to a "westernlike"
one - did you ?)
If you referred to the whole planet's various levels of civilization, i
would admit the primitive ones ( mean here non agricultural/industrial ones)
as probably the sole examples of social and power systems ( like in the
greek "¼?lis") embedded in a commonly accepted set of traditions and values,
unfortunately lost from the beginning of the now excessive specialization of
humans, as architects,doctors,farmers,drivers,politicians, a.s.o)
?¼?
> Reply-To: "Basic and applied design (Art and
> Architecture)"<DESIGN-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 15:12:15 -0800
> To: DESIGN-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: plain guantanamo
>
>> From: Derek Thornton <lists@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>> It is well ventilated and well drained and there is adequate
>> provision for daylight to enter. Easily cleanable toilet
>> facilities have been provided, including one redundant
>> bucket, plus a fresh change of clothing.
>
> A perfect example of instrumental reason. And profoundly irrational in its
> devotion to a mechanistic solution conceived in limited time and space, as
> if the matter at hand were free-standing. Common sense and ethics have
> been marginalized. Any outrage exhibited at the use of these structures
> rages against the contrast between the complexity of reality and the naive,
> childlike self-confidence of the false rationality causing them to be built
> and used.
>
> The argument causing them to be built is the always deceptively convincing
> one of utility, need, and fairness. It always proceeds from a short-term
> close-up position and is justified as being rational. The claim of
> rationality keeps us focused in close-up onto symptoms and distanced far
> away from causes. In meeting this goal the designer and his/her masters
> have exhibited genius (but only in the target market for their ideas). That
> the short-term, logical, linear, instrumental nature of this solution, and
> the context in which it is embedded, is the root of the problem may never be
> dealt with by our civilization.
>
> //Van
I doubt if any other would. ( suppose you referred here to a "westernlike"
one - did you ?)
If you referred to the whole planet's various levels of civilization, i
would admit the primitive ones ( mean here non agricultural/industrial ones)
as probably the sole examples of social and power systems ( like in the
greek "¼?lis") embedded in a commonly accepted set of traditions and values,
unfortunately lost from the beginning of the now excessive specialization of
humans, as architects,doctors,farmers,drivers,politicians, a.s.o)
?¼?