In a message dated 30/09/2004 14:30:56 GMT Standard Time,
michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
Jud {sorry, out of con-text but I just had to intervene, it was so obvious
suddenly}:
Jud the Nominalist White Knight writes:
My way of fighting such horror ["the spreading cancer of disinterest and
unconcern"] is to fight against Judaeo-Christian
transcendentalism [in all its forms] which brought it all** about in the
first place.
Michael the Wicked Baron writes:
... **including you and your nominalism (which did not arrive in a
vacuum)... if only you could use your (ample) brute force to _really_
question (instead of just beating up others {positions} with your
righteousness), you would see that your position is not so stable, not so
reliable, not so unquestionable, not so independent..
Jud:
Nothing can arrive in a vacuum for neither nothing nor a vacuum can exist.
There is no such thing as the *tradition* there is/was only those thinkers
who thought in the past.
Whilst it is not possible to respect a non-existent tradition, it is
possible to respect certain thinkers who thought.
Heidegger is not amongst those I respect — his thinking is juvenile, ill
conceived, baseless and professionally inept.
It is not intellectually stretching
I have questioned the so-called *Being* and seen through it as a puerile
concept. I have seen through *Dasein* for the ontological trick it
was designed to perform. I have seen through and noted the nursery-style
reifications and silly employment of gerunds which conceal real thinking.
*Beating up* on the positions of others does not *equal *beating up* on the
people themselves who choose to adopt those positions.
I see those positions a dangerous and damaging to mankind and I say so. The
only thing worth questioning as far as Heideggerianism is concerned is the
curious phenomena of why so many highly intelligent people fail to see the
falsity of it and persist in putting their faith in ontological moonbeams.
Michael:
. has come from the very same source as Heidegger's and the tradition you
despise. Then you
might be able (_able_, not necessarily to act upon it, but...) to join
forces with, say, rene and others, in investigating/thinking the abysmal
state of things nowadays...
Jud:
See above. I cannot despise the *tradition* for the *tradition* does not
and never has existed.
One can despise certain traditionalists, but that is a different matter. I
can admire some figure in the past for his extrapolation
on his basic premises, but despise his adoption of those very basic
premises. I do not admire Heidegger's extrapolation of his basic premises
for it is shot through with obfuscation, and a manner of thinking which
reminds me of the protesting, clanking machinery of an old rusty village pump.
Neither do I admire Heidegger's re-jigging of the tradition by employing a
series of neologistic interconnecting cobwebs and calling it *the end of
metaphysics.*
As it happens I feel that Rene and I are in accord regarding the state of
things nowadays. [probably even you and I would find some common ground on that
score.] Our differences lie in the nature of our convergent paths to this
realisation. As to *what is to be done* I have no idea of Rene's proposals in
this matter.
My own agenda I have always made quite clear. Personally I feel that that
destruction of metaphysics and the cleansing of our institutions of learning
and the cognitive trash that goes with it is the only hope for mankind:
religion, astrology, superstition, the reification of adjectives and verbs, the
cabala, *continental philosophy,* post modernistic onanism, fortune telling,
and all the rest of the cognitive filth should be outlawed [some hopes.]
And so for me I comport myself towards death pissing against the wind of
ontological difference — constricting my bladder tenaciously towards the
conclusion — a finish which will end with a defiant dribble not a whimper.
Regards,
Jud
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