RE: ordinary liars?



"Bakker, R.B.M. de" <R.B.M.deBakker@xxxxxx> wrote:


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JUD: However at that time [1933] Heidegger was very much in favour with the hierarchy and was sharing discussion tables with criminals who were later hanged or were issued with heavy sentences. Is it possible that being so close to the levers of Nazi power that he WASN'T aware of the Nazi attitudes towards Catholicism?

GCM2: NO! He persecuted Catholics himself when he was Rector of Freiburg per Schneeburger who in the sixties was ridiculed because he insisted Heidegger was a real, true, full-blown Nazi!

RENE: Gary, could you give quotes that support this assertion? Don't you think your accusation serious enough - you use
the word "persecution" - that you should have done that right away?

GCM2: Schneeberger, Guido, NACHLESE ZU HEIDEGGER, Bern, 1962. I read the English translation long ago published by Philosophical Library. Schneeburger writes no commentary but published all the public speeches, records, and announcements made in the name of the Rector while he was Rector. Several of these had to do with the suppression of Catholic student organizations, their meetings, and their newspaper. Of course, a public announcement printed on paper could have been made by anyone in his name, but is it likely they did it either without his initiative or at least approval?


RENE; Or -i'm just asking- do you think you're allowed to assert anything, just like that?

GCM3: Obviously I did not assert it "just like that".


RENE: Because, in that case, it would hit back like a boomerang, to you and the country you live in.

GCM3: Lying in the US is not only a national passtime but a political and patroitic duty. You are correct in being suspicious.

RENE: Every day now, there are more people killed than in the period 1933-1939. And I don't hear nothing from you about that.

GCM3: I have said something but it prooved to be pointless.


RENE: (I once read Schneeberger, and have very different memories from what you write here.

GCM3: Unfortunately I am relying on memory also.


RENE: "Fullblown Nazi"? Please, what did *Guido Schneeberger* write? So that we can save him from your wild accusations.

GCM3: See above. You probably find it in a library easily accessible to you. Where I live books are the work of the Devil.


RENE:it's a sad sight, this allied lying by you and Jud.

GCM3: Finely co-ordinated is it not?


RENE: ah, here is Schneeberger, let's take a look. Can't see nothing on persecuted Catholics.

GCM3: You have the advantage on me. Maybe the English translation was totally fraudulent? Unfortunately that could be the case, but I have no way of checking that at the vmoment.


RENE: Hey, what's this?: "The philosopher Heidegger member of the NSDAP." (documents 18 and 19)

- (NSDAP = National Socialist German Workers Party. Translated into: Nazi Party. I repeat that
a lot can be learned only from this dwarfing strategy - see also what Heidegger comments to
'UB' UNiv. Library, in: What calls for thinking?)

It's an article from "Der Alemanne", revolutionary gazette of the national socialists of Oberbaden,
a philosophical review - Jews and Catholics not mentioned - i must say, Gary, by far superior
to your equations of Heidegger and Hume. Good understanding of H's relation to Kant and Aristoteles.
Read it, i'd say, there's a lot for you to learn in Schneeberger.

GCM3: I shall do so when I find a copy.

'Sincerely'

Gary C. Moore








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