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Everywhere in the world there are Schiller and Goethe institutes
that keep on betraying Germany to the West. Your confirmation
is nothing surprising.
I tell you what i see from here: you're one more time in the
eternal loop, the same you ridiculed before.
at least enjoy your ride,
rene
Jud:
But Rene, [not that I have any sympathies with the Schiller and Goethe
institutes ]
Germany IS the West - or an important part of it anyway.
No. There IS a Germany that is not part of the West.
Did you really think that i was talking about the
real-existing, the Germany on the map?
But THAT is the Germany that does not ek-sist!
The Germany that has retreated, is the (my) real Germany.
I sincerely hope you have another England too...
Otherwise you cannot but ... attack. A blond Brute, you too.
regards,
rene
Jud:
The *Geographical* Germany doesn't exist for me and never has - its just an
idea - some cartographer's lines on a map.
For me *Germany* means the German people - their customs, history,
language,
food, literature, music, poetry, and unique culture.
I much prefer the present Germany [with all its *democratic* faults] to
Heidegger's Germany with its camps - crazed screaming morons with
bull-whips and
its doctrines of superiority and lebensraum - don't you? [Genuine question?]
If so why not?
No Jud, also not THIS Germany. Try again
It is (alarmingly) clear that Heidegger, before, during and after 1933/34
is not talking of an actual, occurrent Germany.
Jud:
Then why on earth join the party - organise teach-ins - and impose the Nazi
creed on the sick to the eyebrows staff if he was not interested in
the ACTUAL Hitlerian Germany he soaught to bring about?
Rene:
The unwill and unability to
follow him here - an indication of authentic being-lost - has led to the
incredible heap of shit we're now sitting around, and which is OUR echo.
Jud:
To follow him WHERE - to new De-Nazification tribunals - to bear the brunt
of the vilification of our fellow men as *beasts?*
(road to go: Dasein (Mitsein) as possibility;
fatherland as the possible.)
for throwing shit and stones, everybody, in the age of massive individualism,
is responsible himself.
Jud:
Fatherland? Fatherland? Sacred soil of Germany/Israel/Noddyland/Timbuctu?
You sound like one of the old Jewish patriarchs - mouthing non-sense through
a fly-fringed mouth whilst dismissing the women to the pots and pans. ;-)
Know that picture of Nietzsche, Ree and Salome-cum-whip?
My mother complained about washing dishes, and started studying theology.
When someone would have said: no, you do the dishes, she would be
much better off now.
Please, but i'm anti-nothing. A missie is usually a male faggot.
There's always one around, when a woman gets lost.
Fatherland? But who says we're at home? Maybe it's only what one is heading for.
Dismissing males and females to the apes?
rene
Regards,
Jud
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