Chris says:
>> "It's tough to argue with Heidegger because there's something about his
>> philosophy that makes him immune to criticism."
>> It's tough. Maybe he's immune to criticism. But he's open to thinking.
>> There's a big difference between the two.
>
>Nicely put, but that's the Heideggerian rhetoric I'm talking about.
>"Nothing you say can touch me, because I'm thinking. I'm not even
>thinking propositionally, so don't even expect me to make any sense." See
>what I mean?
But of course Heidegger doesn't "say," that. Rather that is one reading of
the impression one gets of the way Heidegger positions the reader. What do
we make of the fact that Heidegger's rhetoric can induce people to grant
him the privelege of speaking as a thinker, thereby experiencing his
not-making-propositional sense as a peculiar kind of sense-making that
thinkers can make make if they are apporopriately attended to. Any other
way of speaking would not provide the appropriate space in which one could
hear the master think/speak.
But the appropriate discourse of the listening disciple cannot be the same
as the discourse of the master thinker. As you say:
Even if that's not the Master's stance, you can see how easy
it his for his disciples to slip into it.
So at least we know how the disciples ought not to speak, even to one
another, as they listen together to the master thinking/ speaking.
Pardon me while I burp.
Allen
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>> "It's tough to argue with Heidegger because there's something about his
>> philosophy that makes him immune to criticism."
>> It's tough. Maybe he's immune to criticism. But he's open to thinking.
>> There's a big difference between the two.
>
>Nicely put, but that's the Heideggerian rhetoric I'm talking about.
>"Nothing you say can touch me, because I'm thinking. I'm not even
>thinking propositionally, so don't even expect me to make any sense." See
>what I mean?
But of course Heidegger doesn't "say," that. Rather that is one reading of
the impression one gets of the way Heidegger positions the reader. What do
we make of the fact that Heidegger's rhetoric can induce people to grant
him the privelege of speaking as a thinker, thereby experiencing his
not-making-propositional sense as a peculiar kind of sense-making that
thinkers can make make if they are apporopriately attended to. Any other
way of speaking would not provide the appropriate space in which one could
hear the master think/speak.
But the appropriate discourse of the listening disciple cannot be the same
as the discourse of the master thinker. As you say:
Even if that's not the Master's stance, you can see how easy
it his for his disciples to slip into it.
So at least we know how the disciples ought not to speak, even to one
another, as they listen together to the master thinking/ speaking.
Pardon me while I burp.
Allen
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