RE: Flaschenpost



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[mailto:owner-heidegger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]Namens Jan Straathof
Verzonden: donderdag 23 september 2004 2:43
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Hi Rene, you wrote:

>As i said, i don't read the Contributions and other
>unpublished texts. The passage of the last God -
>it don't seem right to make some thing out of it.

I must confess i have never paid much attention to the Beitraege,
but last summer i bought the german GA-version and have begun
leafing through it. I agree it's a very strange and confusing work,
its aforistic style stands opposite to the rigour and analytic style
of SuZ. It reads more like a prophetic text, one of almost biblical
aspirations and proportions. Nevertheless it starts to fascinate
me more and more, especially the idea that it is a "new religion"
(i.e. one beyond the current world religions) that is very urgently
needed today. One of the most interesting aspects of the book,
and i am still struggling with it, is Heidegger's proposed strategy
to arrive at this new religion. Here he tries to develop and think
(in) a trajectory of ultra-modern and futural mysticism, following
the line: Vorblick - Der Anklang - Das Zuspiel - Der Sprung - Die
Gruendung - Die Zu-kuenftigen - Der Letzte Gott - Das Seyn. Of
course this "line" is not something unilinear; there are many onto-
theo-logical knots, feed-back loops, con-centrations and syntheses.

Anyway, it's fascinating stuff, and i feel lucky ....

yours,
Jan

"Wenn die Goetter die Erde rufen und im Ruf eine Welt widerhallt
und so der Ruf anklingt als Da-sein des Menschen, dann ist Sprache
als geschichtliches, Geschichte gruendendes Wort." [BzP:510]




Jan, as your quote from the very last paragraph, called "Language (its origin)"
shows, one has to begin with language and Dasein, in order to hear a non-human
call. The call should, as the text says, anklingen, come through. But when
there's no receiver, it's all in vain. And receiver (guesser) can only be who
goes back and forth between animal rationale and Dasein, who is able to float.
As Hoelderlin writes: only when the test has gone through the knee, is one
capable/willing to SENSE (spueren) the yelling of the birds in the woods.

Without that, the word god(s) is completely meaningless. Compare the motto of
chapter 7, The last God:

"Der ganz Andere gegen die Gewesenen, zumal gegen den christlichen."
(The wholly Other to/against the ones having-been, esp. to the christian.)

Which means imo, that going through the knee implies breaking the claim of
the christian metaphysical God, who has become a god merely is used for
justification, for deliverance of ground.

But, as was my point with MichaelP, as long as we take everything as vorhanden
- firstly ourselves, we are glued to the spot; how many years do we not need in
order to even experience a moment of true alienation? - everything deeper is
really left out. Just like in poetry, which becomes laughable as soon as it
exhibits the mere extant and actual. And so for both: denken and dichten, access
to Stimmung is vital. We don't hear bird-subjects, to which we attribute the
predicate singing, we hear, when we are able to listen, something inexhaustible*.
Children hear it, but they don't know it.
In order, though, to find the appropriate tone, the tone of our everydayness,
the one that can only flatten all heavenly and earthly, is first to be detected.
The *poem* is always also something extant, but its *poetry* is to be gained by
fight.

"The fight about the poetry (Dichtung) in the poem (Gedicht) is the fight
against us, insofar we in the everydayness of Dasein are pushed out of
the poetry, are placed near the beach, blind, lame and deaf, and incapable
of seeing, nor hearing, nor sensing [spueren] the course of the waves."
(GA39, Germanien und der Rhein, p. 22)

regards
rene


*Heidegger to Hannah Arendt: in truth everything is inexhaustible.





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