RE: Rene and Philosophy II



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[mailto:owner-heidegger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]Namens bob scheetz
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the trouble with the categorical dismissive, liar, imho, is the imputation
of willful deceit, which, if apposite the tendentious usages of power,
politicians, strausians, etc., traduces a class of non-power-freeky (xians,
marxians, humanist scientists, buddhists, nso on) albeit non-heideggerians
honestly struggling for meaning, ...gross simplification worthy the
exhuberance of youth, eminem, but not philosophy. imho truth is not simple;
disclosed-ness is also and simultaneously constructed-ness, ...and for which
the apodictical declaration that german/gk (groundless, subjectivist,
aprioristic constructs) be essential to serious heideggerian thinking, at
the same time denouncing all other believers (metafisicians) for liars, is,
for the contradiction, a luminous if melancholy demonstration

yours,
bob








Lying:

1.: Everyday lies by and for everyone.


economics:
"This car is friendly to the environment. Buy and drive it, and
the couple will be a friend of nature."

health:
Your child is schizophrenic/your parent has Altzheimer. They have
many of its symptoms. You can't do nothing about it. That's science.


politics:
"Support us to bring freedom and democracy to the whole world."

family:
"Better leave that boy alone, otherwise he'll come back strong"
(Eminem)

No philosophy is needed to perceive the cheating. One can feel it
clearly when one is the victim, vaguely when one is (part of) the agent.
It makes no sense to go to (2), if (1) is not *experienced*. Philosophers
often are unknowingly troubled by (1), and therefore go quickly to (2).
But for the same reason they cannot recognize lying there.


2. Basic lies. They lie at the basis of 'what is today'. But as lies they
don't present themselves as the truth of what is today. Rather, what is
today, tends to remain hidden. It remains the best hidden, when there is
no (belief in) truth. The consequent insecurity opens the door to terror.
Massive weakness asks for a master. Truth then is no longer a problem.
Because everyone lives actually in (1), everydaylife is more and more
corrupted. (progress)
Once again: the concrete, physical consequences of a metaphysics that
is so fundamental, that, if its legacy is denied (lied about), only
will reign stronger.

The one, thanks to who this more than complex situation, can be unraveled,
is the one covered with the most and the worst lies. Look what the subject-object
relation does: "Heidegger is a Nazi"." "Nihilism is always to be fought".
"Always humans have used the subject-object relation, and they'll always will."

But metaphysics, the s-o relation, or: ontological difference are nothing
absolute, but they 'are' [stop] geschichtlich. Metaphysics is nothing in
a book, it 'is', insofar it is continued, or left out. So metaphysics is
not a subject, of which essential attributes can be predicated - already
a CONSEQUENCE of subjectivist thinking - this subject is NOW rather a lie -
the way metaphysics is now, as what it 'is' (reigns) now rather thoroughly
unclear. When THIS is seen, noticed, THEN the realm of questionworthiness,
of possibility is opened. Starting with the s-o relation, that has gotten
meaningless, and therefore brought to its ground, that still 'is', but hidden
behind, and in, this same s-o distinction. Metaphysics is not thrown away,
on the contrary, it is the angle, by which solely a turning can be made.


must go (really)

rene













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