> From: "Anand Bhatt, Architect." <interface.lists@xxxxxxxx>
>
> Subject: Re: nuts or huts !
>
> Er! Is this a real law? Like something people use? If so, how do you
> quantify these things into your equations? Are they rigorous or just
> silly-billy scientific sounding muck overlaying some nice home-grown
> boorishness?
these supposed laws are basics in masters degrees in social communictaion.
>
> One, that explains a lot of American assertions, I always wonder as to
> how they could just keep ignoring their humiliations all over the world
> -- haven't they bled power for the last couple of decades or more?
they are not the only ones, Russians. british for some 50 years now, except
when the malvines warzone. Frecnh in Algeria, Belgian in Congo. ...power
bleeding is sure for many. Portuguese with angola. let's follow ?
Corporates companies bleeding human power everywhere except where cheap
labor cost is avilable...
and in all cases who has power tends always to loose it , someday.
It's very difficult to stay at the top. of the charts or of the struggle to
domination, and generallly the arrival to the top power generates the same
instruments to loose it. Greeks already studied that some 25 centuries from
now.
> Two, no wonder everybody is into digging knives into American stuff, and
> it is not just the 9/11 events ("humans biting the dog's ears") I refer
> to.
the fall of some giant is always something to watch carefully. the Romans,
British empire,marxism in Russia, in china - not yet, they are smarter.
Their history is larger and they studied it more than westerners did.
Replace liberalism/capitalism as a way of life ? If so, to be replaced by
WHAT ?
Is there a good political system who could avoid the leader of the most
powerful nation to be spitted on by electoral financing / processes ?
Is that a proof of the efficiency of a democratic system or just a proof of
some of his defects ?
Are we in a phase of reapparition of extreme political positions trying to
gain support from the masses ? I'm afraid yes. Not evident, but progressive.
Real liberalism as quoted here about studies in NewYork ( by richard ,I
think) is disappearing.
Is the global economic crisis again pushing to the extremes as it did in
Europe in the 1930ies ? But at a planetary level ?
>
> Wish I had the time to get into a discussion over this, especially your
> concepts of value -- I will certainly refer it to the [non-American]
> people around me, they will find it of some use. Thanks ~g, most
> insightful, a picture of the thinking that fast drives your country to
> the status of the world's first post-powerful nation!
Agree, as just as I said before. The USA is probably becoming the emptiest
cultural /referential/ moral/ social system on this earth. I donno if
somewhere else the contrary is also happening.
Meaby some basic/fundamental values should be the re-centered cible of our
daily lifes.
We shoudn't be here on earth only "for the money". Easy to write, hey!
?¼?
>
> Subject: Re: nuts or huts !
>
> Er! Is this a real law? Like something people use? If so, how do you
> quantify these things into your equations? Are they rigorous or just
> silly-billy scientific sounding muck overlaying some nice home-grown
> boorishness?
these supposed laws are basics in masters degrees in social communictaion.
>
> One, that explains a lot of American assertions, I always wonder as to
> how they could just keep ignoring their humiliations all over the world
> -- haven't they bled power for the last couple of decades or more?
they are not the only ones, Russians. british for some 50 years now, except
when the malvines warzone. Frecnh in Algeria, Belgian in Congo. ...power
bleeding is sure for many. Portuguese with angola. let's follow ?
Corporates companies bleeding human power everywhere except where cheap
labor cost is avilable...
and in all cases who has power tends always to loose it , someday.
It's very difficult to stay at the top. of the charts or of the struggle to
domination, and generallly the arrival to the top power generates the same
instruments to loose it. Greeks already studied that some 25 centuries from
now.
> Two, no wonder everybody is into digging knives into American stuff, and
> it is not just the 9/11 events ("humans biting the dog's ears") I refer
> to.
the fall of some giant is always something to watch carefully. the Romans,
British empire,marxism in Russia, in china - not yet, they are smarter.
Their history is larger and they studied it more than westerners did.
Replace liberalism/capitalism as a way of life ? If so, to be replaced by
WHAT ?
Is there a good political system who could avoid the leader of the most
powerful nation to be spitted on by electoral financing / processes ?
Is that a proof of the efficiency of a democratic system or just a proof of
some of his defects ?
Are we in a phase of reapparition of extreme political positions trying to
gain support from the masses ? I'm afraid yes. Not evident, but progressive.
Real liberalism as quoted here about studies in NewYork ( by richard ,I
think) is disappearing.
Is the global economic crisis again pushing to the extremes as it did in
Europe in the 1930ies ? But at a planetary level ?
>
> Wish I had the time to get into a discussion over this, especially your
> concepts of value -- I will certainly refer it to the [non-American]
> people around me, they will find it of some use. Thanks ~g, most
> insightful, a picture of the thinking that fast drives your country to
> the status of the world's first post-powerful nation!
Agree, as just as I said before. The USA is probably becoming the emptiest
cultural /referential/ moral/ social system on this earth. I donno if
somewhere else the contrary is also happening.
Meaby some basic/fundamental values should be the re-centered cible of our
daily lifes.
We shoudn't be here on earth only "for the money". Easy to write, hey!
?¼?