Cheryl:
He dispenses with plot and narrative and even characters as you have been trained to assess. I suppose in that sense he is making some kind of critique of the novel ( by dispensing with it ) and its incremental, one might say, hegelian pompousness. Has anyone not tired of the other chapter 11 namely, Master and Bondsman?
Really at this point what remains are not the "few thousand battered books" but rather the few thousand readers of them. You want narrative, watch a commercial. Markson has written a book with no point. Yet, and its a biog yet, it doesn't make much sense unless you've read alot of books and share the occidental high culture context he decapitates.
So, no, not in same marxist/capitalist category as the others. I can't say what his positions is with those or any issues.
Although, there is a certain feeling that any construction is liable as not to be emptied by death despite the relic industry. Of Duncan? a scarf. Of Hart Crane ( who's father invented lifesaver candy) a jump off the SS Orizaba 12 miles off coast of Cuba, where Hemingway lived and now sells postcards. The artist lives, remembers, makes evidence and dies.
Irony is no salve. Boccioni dies under his spooked cavalry horse, 1916.
Micha
On Jun 24, 2005, at 10:36 AM, Cheryl McGrath wrote:
He dispenses with plot and narrative and even characters as you have been trained to assess. I suppose in that sense he is making some kind of critique of the novel ( by dispensing with it ) and its incremental, one might say, hegelian pompousness. Has anyone not tired of the other chapter 11 namely, Master and Bondsman?
Really at this point what remains are not the "few thousand battered books" but rather the few thousand readers of them. You want narrative, watch a commercial. Markson has written a book with no point. Yet, and its a biog yet, it doesn't make much sense unless you've read alot of books and share the occidental high culture context he decapitates.
So, no, not in same marxist/capitalist category as the others. I can't say what his positions is with those or any issues.
Although, there is a certain feeling that any construction is liable as not to be emptied by death despite the relic industry. Of Duncan? a scarf. Of Hart Crane ( who's father invented lifesaver candy) a jump off the SS Orizaba 12 miles off coast of Cuba, where Hemingway lived and now sells postcards. The artist lives, remembers, makes evidence and dies.
Irony is no salve. Boccioni dies under his spooked cavalry horse, 1916.
Micha
On Jun 24, 2005, at 10:36 AM, Cheryl McGrath wrote:
micha,
what is vanishing point by markson about? is it in the same capitalist/marxist category as the others mentioned? the topic is worthy of a wider public discourse - in order to have an effect? how does the designer/artist play a role in expressing or in dealing with these issues?
cheryl
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Vanishing Point by David Markson
On Jun 23, 2005, at 11:04 AM, view@xxxxxxxx wrote:
someone gave me a copy of that book and it's been on my shelf for at least 3 months. i doubt i will read it, but will at least skim it and look at the pictures._______________________________________________
just finished "What's the Matter with Kansas" by Tom Frank, an easy read that fits (more or less) in the oppressed/oppressor category of thought/lit, like Memmi's "Colonizer and the Colonized." there are many other authors, of course, who pose the question of why the oppressed become apologists for the oppressor.
what is everyone reading this summer?
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