This is further to my previous post on this subject.
I was profoundly moved by nalini's email. Nalini is
correct and this is indeed a very serious matter.
Public Servants cannot be allowed to behave in this
way and utilise National Monuments as their personal
jaagirdari. I do not claim to have any knowledge of
laws concerning Heritage Monuments etc. so I am
counting on the experts to help out here. India is
surely not France where every parvenu can book
Versailles for a wedding.
For everyone who is prepared to stand up and be
counted in this disgraceful affair, I am setting out
my initial observations - for further input from the
list.
1) Is there a public servant(s) who are entrusted with
or who exercise dominion over Humayun's Tomb - even
temporarily. If so , who ?
2) Is there any law(s) concerning how these public
servant(s) have to discharge their trust / dominion
over Humayun's Tomb. Which are these laws?
3) By allowing the function at Humayun's Tomb were any
of these laws breached.
4) Is there any law of India which would allow
ManMohan Singh / Tony Blair / Cherie Blair to eat
prawn malai at the Tomb at Night
Sarbajit Roy
relevant Indian Penal Code definitions:
409. Criminal breach of trust by public servant, or by
banker, merchant or agent.
Whoever, being in any manner entrusted with property,
or with any dominion over property in his capacity of
a public servant or in the way of his business as a
banker, merchant, factor, broker, attorney or agent,
commits criminal breach of trust in respect of that
property, shall be punished with [imprisonment for
life], or with imprisonment of either description for
a term which may extend to ten years, and shall also
be liable to fine.
405. Criminal breach of trust.
Whoever, being in any manner entrusted with property,
or with any dominion over property, dishonestly
misappropriates or converts to his own use that
property, or dishonestly uses or disposes of that
property in violation of any direction of law
prescribing the mode in which such trust is to be
discharged, or of any legal contract, express or
implied, which he has made touching the discharge of
such trust, or wilfully suffers any other person so to
do, commits "criminal breach of trust".
24. "Dishonestly"
Whoever does anything with the intention of causing
wrongful gain to one person or wrongful loss to
another person, is said to do that thing
"dishonestly".
23. "Wrongful gain"
"Wrongful gain" is gain by unlawful means of property
which the person gaining is not legally entitled.
"Wrongful loss"- "Wrongful loss" is the loss by
unlawful means of property to which the person losing
it is legally entitled.
Gaining wrongfully, losing wrongfully- A person is
said to gain wrongfully when such person retains
wrongfully, as well as when such person acquires
wrongfully. A person is said to lose wrongfully when
such person is wrongfully kept out of any property as
well as when such person is wrongfully deprived of
property.
--- nalini thakur <rak1993@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> As per law today it is not possible to indulge in
> prawn malai what ever the
> astrologers say. Please be serious and understand
> the underlying gravity
> that Gita is trying to point out.
> Please suggest a positive course of action.
> Thank You
> Nalini
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "sarbajit roy" <sroy1947@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Master plan issues in media"
> <mpisgmedia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 11:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [mpisgmedia] Prawn malai at Humayun's
> Tomb?
> 1857&2005:mangalpandey, humayun tomb, oxford
>
>
> Love your discovery of coincidences .. although its
> foundation in the mathematics of probability seems
> wobbly.
>
> Did you know if you have a group of only 23 people -
> the probability that 2 people in that group have the
> same birthday is better than even .. ie. more than
> 50%?
>
> Similarly if you take 2 dates (such as 7 Sept) in
> any
> random grouping of 23 posts .. you'll probably find
> a
> connection somewhere. Its well exploited by all
> those
> astrologers whose knowledge of probstats wud put us
> techno-experts to shame.
>
> Sarbajit
>
> --- Gita Dewan Verma <mpisgplanner@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > | Express has two cons reports today:
> >
> > | Indian national t.a.c.h is planning
> >
> > ...to restore the erstwhile glory of the
> Coronation
> > Memorial. It was here in 1911, that George V and
> > Queen
> > Mary annointed Delhi as the seat of power in the
> > coronation durbar... UK High Commissioner has also
> > promised assistance...
> >
>
http://cities.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=149451
> > (INTACH plans to restore Coronation Park,
> memorial)
> >
> > | and union Culture Ministry is planning
> >
> > ...to bring in a set of guidelines for hosting
> gala
> > events at ''fragile'' heritage sites. There have
> > already been two receptions ...one, by the Aga
> Khan
> > Trust for Culture, which contributed to rebuilding
> > the
> > mausoleum, from restoring its waterworks to
> planting
> > trees favoured by the Mughals, to the more recent
> > Blair reception...
> >
>
http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=78513
> > Prawn Malai at Humayun's Tomb? Reddy's watching
> >
> > | both illegal parties at Humayun's Tomb
> > | are also otherwise flagged, here:
> >
> >
>
http://plan.architexturez.net/site/profession/awards/akaa/041129
> > Aga Khan Award ceremony at Humayun's Tomb,
> > 27.11.2004
> >
> > http://plan.architexturez.net/site/anomie/f/050910
> > 1857 & 2005: Mangal Pandey, Humayun's Tomb and
> > Oxford
> >
> > Mangal Pandey, hanged in April 1857, was released
> in
> > August 2005. British Film Council's contribution
> of
> > £
> > 150,000 to the film is explained by its British
> > co-producer: "It criticizes the East India
> Company,
> > not the British Government". Already, Indian Prime
> > Minister Manmohan Singh had dwelled on "beneficial
> > consequences" of "India's experience with
> Britain",
> > on
> > 8 July 2005 at Oxford. On 8 July 1858 was signed
> the
> > treaty that ended the Indian Rebellion and paved
> the
> > way for transfer of power from British East India
> > Company to British Crown. Isolated incidents, like
> > by
> > Mangal Pandey, had became Great Indian Mutiny
> after
> > the British lost Delhi on 11 May 1857. On 21
> > September
> > they recaptured it and a Major Hodson with his 50
> > Sikhs took Bahadurshah Zafar captive from
> Humayun's
> > Tomb and returned with 100 of his men to take the
> > Emperor's two sons and grandson, whom he summarily
> > executed. Preparations for re-taking of Delhi by
> the
> > British were precipitated on 7 September 1857. On
> 7
> > September 2005, Indian Prime Minister Manmohan
> Singh
> > and his wife Gursharan Kaur hosted a dinner in
> > honour
> > of British Prime Minister Tony Blair and his wife
> > Cherie Blair, at Humayun's Tomb.
> >
> > The following is the small collection of texts in
> > which I found these coincidences and more. I am
> not
> > history buff, nor war buff. I was looking simply
> > because I was distressed by our Prime Minister
> > partying at Humayun's Tomb, not once but twice (as
> > Chief Guest of the Aga Khan on 27 November 2004
> and
> > as
> > host to Tony Blair on 7 September 2005), even
> though
> > such partying is impermissible in law and despite
> > protest (in 2004 by myself against re-honouring of
> a
> > DfiD funded Indore project amounting to civic
> > disaster
> > and other interferences in urban development
> > paradigms
> > and professional practice and in 2005 by a section
> > of
> > The Left against the Blair visit in view of Iraq
> and
> > WTO). I had turned to Google in hope of finding,
> for
> > peace of mind, that the association of Humayun's
> > Tomb
> > with 1857 was insignificant. Now I am aghast.
> >
> > Of course, my search was far from scholarly and I
> > would be greatly relieved to be corrected. If,
> > however, I have stumbled upon something
> significant,
> > I
> > wish our History would record, now, who all
> amongst
> > those connected with either party at the Tomb and
> > who
> > all amongst those deciding how our History should
> be
> > taught or show-cased are aware of it. This is to
> > distinguish between those who knew exactly what
> they
> > were doing or not doing about the partying at the
> > Tomb
> > (and ought to answer for their deliberate
> disrespect
> > of History) and those who knew not what they did
> or
> > did not (and ought to relinquish responsibilities
> > for
> > minding our affairs for that reason).
> >
> > | The Indian Rebellion of 1857 | Mangal Pandey,
> 1857
> > &
> > 2005 | The 1857 Siege of Delhi | Humayun's Tomb,
> > 1857
> > & 2005 | Devil's Wind after "Peace Treaty" of 8
> July
> > 1858 | Oxford 1858 & 8 July 2005 |
> >
> > contd/
> > http://plan.architexturez.net/site/anomie/f/050910
> >
> >
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>
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> >
>
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I was profoundly moved by nalini's email. Nalini is
correct and this is indeed a very serious matter.
Public Servants cannot be allowed to behave in this
way and utilise National Monuments as their personal
jaagirdari. I do not claim to have any knowledge of
laws concerning Heritage Monuments etc. so I am
counting on the experts to help out here. India is
surely not France where every parvenu can book
Versailles for a wedding.
For everyone who is prepared to stand up and be
counted in this disgraceful affair, I am setting out
my initial observations - for further input from the
list.
1) Is there a public servant(s) who are entrusted with
or who exercise dominion over Humayun's Tomb - even
temporarily. If so , who ?
2) Is there any law(s) concerning how these public
servant(s) have to discharge their trust / dominion
over Humayun's Tomb. Which are these laws?
3) By allowing the function at Humayun's Tomb were any
of these laws breached.
4) Is there any law of India which would allow
ManMohan Singh / Tony Blair / Cherie Blair to eat
prawn malai at the Tomb at Night
Sarbajit Roy
relevant Indian Penal Code definitions:
409. Criminal breach of trust by public servant, or by
banker, merchant or agent.
Whoever, being in any manner entrusted with property,
or with any dominion over property in his capacity of
a public servant or in the way of his business as a
banker, merchant, factor, broker, attorney or agent,
commits criminal breach of trust in respect of that
property, shall be punished with [imprisonment for
life], or with imprisonment of either description for
a term which may extend to ten years, and shall also
be liable to fine.
405. Criminal breach of trust.
Whoever, being in any manner entrusted with property,
or with any dominion over property, dishonestly
misappropriates or converts to his own use that
property, or dishonestly uses or disposes of that
property in violation of any direction of law
prescribing the mode in which such trust is to be
discharged, or of any legal contract, express or
implied, which he has made touching the discharge of
such trust, or wilfully suffers any other person so to
do, commits "criminal breach of trust".
24. "Dishonestly"
Whoever does anything with the intention of causing
wrongful gain to one person or wrongful loss to
another person, is said to do that thing
"dishonestly".
23. "Wrongful gain"
"Wrongful gain" is gain by unlawful means of property
which the person gaining is not legally entitled.
"Wrongful loss"- "Wrongful loss" is the loss by
unlawful means of property to which the person losing
it is legally entitled.
Gaining wrongfully, losing wrongfully- A person is
said to gain wrongfully when such person retains
wrongfully, as well as when such person acquires
wrongfully. A person is said to lose wrongfully when
such person is wrongfully kept out of any property as
well as when such person is wrongfully deprived of
property.
--- nalini thakur <rak1993@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> As per law today it is not possible to indulge in
> prawn malai what ever the
> astrologers say. Please be serious and understand
> the underlying gravity
> that Gita is trying to point out.
> Please suggest a positive course of action.
> Thank You
> Nalini
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "sarbajit roy" <sroy1947@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Master plan issues in media"
> <mpisgmedia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 11:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [mpisgmedia] Prawn malai at Humayun's
> Tomb?
> 1857&2005:mangalpandey, humayun tomb, oxford
>
>
> Love your discovery of coincidences .. although its
> foundation in the mathematics of probability seems
> wobbly.
>
> Did you know if you have a group of only 23 people -
> the probability that 2 people in that group have the
> same birthday is better than even .. ie. more than
> 50%?
>
> Similarly if you take 2 dates (such as 7 Sept) in
> any
> random grouping of 23 posts .. you'll probably find
> a
> connection somewhere. Its well exploited by all
> those
> astrologers whose knowledge of probstats wud put us
> techno-experts to shame.
>
> Sarbajit
>
> --- Gita Dewan Verma <mpisgplanner@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > | Express has two cons reports today:
> >
> > | Indian national t.a.c.h is planning
> >
> > ...to restore the erstwhile glory of the
> Coronation
> > Memorial. It was here in 1911, that George V and
> > Queen
> > Mary annointed Delhi as the seat of power in the
> > coronation durbar... UK High Commissioner has also
> > promised assistance...
> >
>
http://cities.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=149451
> > (INTACH plans to restore Coronation Park,
> memorial)
> >
> > | and union Culture Ministry is planning
> >
> > ...to bring in a set of guidelines for hosting
> gala
> > events at ''fragile'' heritage sites. There have
> > already been two receptions ...one, by the Aga
> Khan
> > Trust for Culture, which contributed to rebuilding
> > the
> > mausoleum, from restoring its waterworks to
> planting
> > trees favoured by the Mughals, to the more recent
> > Blair reception...
> >
>
http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=78513
> > Prawn Malai at Humayun's Tomb? Reddy's watching
> >
> > | both illegal parties at Humayun's Tomb
> > | are also otherwise flagged, here:
> >
> >
>
http://plan.architexturez.net/site/profession/awards/akaa/041129
> > Aga Khan Award ceremony at Humayun's Tomb,
> > 27.11.2004
> >
> > http://plan.architexturez.net/site/anomie/f/050910
> > 1857 & 2005: Mangal Pandey, Humayun's Tomb and
> > Oxford
> >
> > Mangal Pandey, hanged in April 1857, was released
> in
> > August 2005. British Film Council's contribution
> of
> > £
> > 150,000 to the film is explained by its British
> > co-producer: "It criticizes the East India
> Company,
> > not the British Government". Already, Indian Prime
> > Minister Manmohan Singh had dwelled on "beneficial
> > consequences" of "India's experience with
> Britain",
> > on
> > 8 July 2005 at Oxford. On 8 July 1858 was signed
> the
> > treaty that ended the Indian Rebellion and paved
> the
> > way for transfer of power from British East India
> > Company to British Crown. Isolated incidents, like
> > by
> > Mangal Pandey, had became Great Indian Mutiny
> after
> > the British lost Delhi on 11 May 1857. On 21
> > September
> > they recaptured it and a Major Hodson with his 50
> > Sikhs took Bahadurshah Zafar captive from
> Humayun's
> > Tomb and returned with 100 of his men to take the
> > Emperor's two sons and grandson, whom he summarily
> > executed. Preparations for re-taking of Delhi by
> the
> > British were precipitated on 7 September 1857. On
> 7
> > September 2005, Indian Prime Minister Manmohan
> Singh
> > and his wife Gursharan Kaur hosted a dinner in
> > honour
> > of British Prime Minister Tony Blair and his wife
> > Cherie Blair, at Humayun's Tomb.
> >
> > The following is the small collection of texts in
> > which I found these coincidences and more. I am
> not
> > history buff, nor war buff. I was looking simply
> > because I was distressed by our Prime Minister
> > partying at Humayun's Tomb, not once but twice (as
> > Chief Guest of the Aga Khan on 27 November 2004
> and
> > as
> > host to Tony Blair on 7 September 2005), even
> though
> > such partying is impermissible in law and despite
> > protest (in 2004 by myself against re-honouring of
> a
> > DfiD funded Indore project amounting to civic
> > disaster
> > and other interferences in urban development
> > paradigms
> > and professional practice and in 2005 by a section
> > of
> > The Left against the Blair visit in view of Iraq
> and
> > WTO). I had turned to Google in hope of finding,
> for
> > peace of mind, that the association of Humayun's
> > Tomb
> > with 1857 was insignificant. Now I am aghast.
> >
> > Of course, my search was far from scholarly and I
> > would be greatly relieved to be corrected. If,
> > however, I have stumbled upon something
> significant,
> > I
> > wish our History would record, now, who all
> amongst
> > those connected with either party at the Tomb and
> > who
> > all amongst those deciding how our History should
> be
> > taught or show-cased are aware of it. This is to
> > distinguish between those who knew exactly what
> they
> > were doing or not doing about the partying at the
> > Tomb
> > (and ought to answer for their deliberate
> disrespect
> > of History) and those who knew not what they did
> or
> > did not (and ought to relinquish responsibilities
> > for
> > minding our affairs for that reason).
> >
> > | The Indian Rebellion of 1857 | Mangal Pandey,
> 1857
> > &
> > 2005 | The 1857 Siege of Delhi | Humayun's Tomb,
> > 1857
> > & 2005 | Devil's Wind after "Peace Treaty" of 8
> July
> > 1858 | Oxford 1858 & 8 July 2005 |
> >
> > contd/
> > http://plan.architexturez.net/site/anomie/f/050910
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > mpisgmedia mailing list
> > mpisgmedia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
>
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> >
>
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