Dear Gita,
Sorry for being quite for so long. Actually I am in Delhi right now... so thought that I wouldn't be of any help for the "Dhravai Model" research.
I really did not know that the model was so famous. There are a lot of work and people that I could refer to:
1. Anirudh Paul (from KRVIA school, since KRVIA has been doing a study of the area since quite some time now.... phone: 26700918)
2. Sonal Shah (again from KRVIA.... she has been doing an evaluation of SRA schemes for her post graduate research... ph: 9820285750)
3. Chandrashekar Prabhu (a real state representative ex MLA, architect and urban planner....who was/is the chairperson to the advisory committee on housing... ph: 9821299484)
4. Mukesh Mehta (the developer/architect... who is behind this whole SRA model becoming Dharavi Model.... When we worked with him, he was talking about getting foreign investments to undertake the developments... I really don't know if that thing continues even today.... ph: 23423952... this was long ago... the number must have changed... but I am sure Anirudh Paul will be able to give his number)
5. Adolf Tragler (from the Slum Rehabilitation Society... an NGO... which I guess broke off from SPARC since SPARC was becoming a developer itself as Tragler claims.... Tragler is working with an alternative model of finance where he sees the capacity of slum dwellers in use.... I don't have his number in my mobile phone... But I am sure again Anirudh Paul will have it... Or else I can give it by tommorrow morning or so.)
Bit of my thesis was looking at the SRA schemes... but more interested in the gossips of development... including the amount that needs and number of windows opened before trying to knock the single window of the Slum Rehabilitation Authority...
I agree with Kedar that the model requires a very high land value as a prerequisit and this particular site of Dharavi is the presently the most well connected place in the city.... In the name of environment and "good" living conditions.... I suspect this model is actually the agent to fecilitate large scale appropriations.... Of course I have reasons for such suspision.... Moreover... the number of resale of the new houses are indicatve of the whole thing.... it is a clssic example where you give the fish but snatch away the tools to fish... especailly when Dharavi is a large industry.... of ceramics...garments...leather...food...etc....
Regards,
Prasad
By the way... Gita... are you in Delhi?
ÿ
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 Gita Dewan Verma wrote :
>uma, harshad, prasad, jeyant, kedar, sk, please get
>back on this. In delhi even unrelated things like ina
>market redevelopment ideas are being called dharavi
>model, so we could do with some rigour on what exactly
>is the 'model'.
>Nidhi, in AST&P there is / was kaiwan mehta, who is
>also with an architecture college.
>
>--- nidhi@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> > thanks gita for your posting. Gauri Vij, Managing
> > Editor of Architecture Time Space &
> > People got back to me with contact details of
> > Kalpana Sharma. I shall be meeting both
> > of them in Mumbai. But I would be grateful if some
> > more people from Mumbai could
> > help me out on this. As I understand Dharavi is an
> > oft studied issue, so if people can
> > throw some light on it.
> >
> > nidhi
> >
> >
> > On 23 Aug 2004 at 6:43, Gita Dewan Verma wrote:
> >
> > has anyone, especially from Mumbai, on this list got
> > back to nidhi?
> >
> > nidhi, the 500 cr gift for dharavi came when wsf
> > 2004
> > was on, and is first on list of things accompanying
> > the statement against housing-rights-events on it,
> > got
> > forwarded for 'appropriate action' to Secy MoUD from
> > President Secretariat in February.
> >
> > buzz now is probably because of what's in the rajya
> > sabha press release of 16.08.04 at
> >
>http://www.pib.nic.in/hrelease/h-release.asp?relid=1331
> >
> >
> > in mumbai i don't know who is tracking this round
> > (it
> > goes back to PM grant in Rajiv Gandhi time).
> >
> > in delhi, spa has at least one recent thesis. hudco
> > must have something since they hosted sparc after
> > mumbai model for delhi was announced in 2002. dda
> > also, since they said at action-aid night shelter do
> > at ihc in july 2003 on behalf of vc (now moud secy)
> > that they were studying it with hudco and then
> > announced 3 pilot projects.
> >
> > in delhi this sort of thing is outright illegal
> > profiteering on public land and incapable of
> > working.
> > rep about is pending hearing with standing
> > parliamentary committee since July 2003, while rajya
> > sabha has issued this press release in undp
> > compliance
> > a day after ID.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- nidhi@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I am doing a write up on Dharavi for Down To Earth
> > > magazine. Need to
> > > understand the rehabilitation model of Dharavi
> > which
> > > is being touted as
> > > 'ideal'. As far as I understand, this model is a
> > > sham with lots of legal
> > > loopholes and master plan violations. I am
> > > travelling to Mumbai in the
> > > first week of Sept for the same. Can you pl feed
> > me
> > > with info, research
> > > papers, books, etc etc? If you could tell me their
> > > titles, I will look for
> > > them and read up. Apart from that any important
> > > contacts in Mumbai
> > > whom I should meet up. I do not want to land up
> > with
> > > 'wrong' experts.
> > > So any word of caution.
> > >
> > > Gita, I know I am bugging you again, but can I
> > come
> > > and meet you
> > > sometime if you are free?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > nidhi
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Correspondent
> > > Down To Earth
> > > 41, Tughlakabad Institutional Area
> > > New Delhi 110001
> > > India
> > > Tel: +91 11 29955124, 29956394, 29956401, 29956399
> > > Fax: +91 11 29955879
> > > www.downtoearth.org.in
> > > www.cseindia.org
> > >
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> > On 23 Aug 2004 at 6:43, Gita Dewan Verma wrote:
> >
> > has anyone, especially from Mumbai, on this list got
> > back to nidhi?
> >
> > nidhi, the 500 cr gift for dharavi came when wsf
> > 2004
> > was on, and is first on list of things accompanying
> > the statement against housing-rights-events on it,
> > got
> > forwarded for 'appropriate action' to Secy MoUD from
> > President Secretariat in February.
> >
> > buzz now is probably because of what's in the rajya
> > sabha press release of 16.08.04 at
> >
>http://www.pib.nic.in/hrelease/h-release.asp?relid=1331
> >
> >
> > in mumbai i don't know who is tracking this round
> > (it
> > goes back to PM grant in Rajiv Gandhi time).
> >
> > in delhi, spa has at least one recent thesis. hudco
> > must have something since they hosted sparc after
> > mumbai model for delhi was announced in 2002. dda
> > also, since they said at action-aid night shelter do
> > at ihc in july 2003 on behalf of vc (now moud secy)
> > that they were studying it with hudco and then
> > announced 3 pilot projects.
> >
> > in delhi this sort of thing is outright illegal
> > profiteering on public land and incapable of
> > working.
> > rep about is pending hearing with standing
> > parliamentary committee since July 2003, while rajya
> > sabha has issued this press release in undp
> > compliance
> > a day after ID.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- nidhi@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I am doing a write up on Dharavi for Down To Earth
> > > magazine. Need to
> > > understand the rehabilitation model of Dharavi
> > which
> > > is being touted as
> > > 'ideal'. As far as I understand, this model is a
> > > sham with lots of legal
> > > loopholes and master plan violations. I am
> > > travelling to Mumbai in the
> > > first week of Sept for the same. Can you pl feed
> > me
> > > with info, research
> > > papers, books, etc etc? If you could tell me their
> > > titles, I will look for
> > > them and read up. Apart from that any important
> > > contacts in Mumbai
> > > whom I should meet up. I do not want to land up
> > with
> > > 'wrong' experts.
> > > So any word of caution.
> > >
> > > Gita, I know I am bugging you again, but can I
> > come
> > > and meet you
> > > sometime if you are free?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > nidhi
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Correspondent
> > > Down To Earth
> >
>=== message truncated ===
>
>
>
>
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Phone: +91-9820912744
Sorry for being quite for so long. Actually I am in Delhi right now... so thought that I wouldn't be of any help for the "Dhravai Model" research.
I really did not know that the model was so famous. There are a lot of work and people that I could refer to:
1. Anirudh Paul (from KRVIA school, since KRVIA has been doing a study of the area since quite some time now.... phone: 26700918)
2. Sonal Shah (again from KRVIA.... she has been doing an evaluation of SRA schemes for her post graduate research... ph: 9820285750)
3. Chandrashekar Prabhu (a real state representative ex MLA, architect and urban planner....who was/is the chairperson to the advisory committee on housing... ph: 9821299484)
4. Mukesh Mehta (the developer/architect... who is behind this whole SRA model becoming Dharavi Model.... When we worked with him, he was talking about getting foreign investments to undertake the developments... I really don't know if that thing continues even today.... ph: 23423952... this was long ago... the number must have changed... but I am sure Anirudh Paul will be able to give his number)
5. Adolf Tragler (from the Slum Rehabilitation Society... an NGO... which I guess broke off from SPARC since SPARC was becoming a developer itself as Tragler claims.... Tragler is working with an alternative model of finance where he sees the capacity of slum dwellers in use.... I don't have his number in my mobile phone... But I am sure again Anirudh Paul will have it... Or else I can give it by tommorrow morning or so.)
Bit of my thesis was looking at the SRA schemes... but more interested in the gossips of development... including the amount that needs and number of windows opened before trying to knock the single window of the Slum Rehabilitation Authority...
I agree with Kedar that the model requires a very high land value as a prerequisit and this particular site of Dharavi is the presently the most well connected place in the city.... In the name of environment and "good" living conditions.... I suspect this model is actually the agent to fecilitate large scale appropriations.... Of course I have reasons for such suspision.... Moreover... the number of resale of the new houses are indicatve of the whole thing.... it is a clssic example where you give the fish but snatch away the tools to fish... especailly when Dharavi is a large industry.... of ceramics...garments...leather...food...etc....
Regards,
Prasad
By the way... Gita... are you in Delhi?
ÿ
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 Gita Dewan Verma wrote :
>uma, harshad, prasad, jeyant, kedar, sk, please get
>back on this. In delhi even unrelated things like ina
>market redevelopment ideas are being called dharavi
>model, so we could do with some rigour on what exactly
>is the 'model'.
>Nidhi, in AST&P there is / was kaiwan mehta, who is
>also with an architecture college.
>
>--- nidhi@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> > thanks gita for your posting. Gauri Vij, Managing
> > Editor of Architecture Time Space &
> > People got back to me with contact details of
> > Kalpana Sharma. I shall be meeting both
> > of them in Mumbai. But I would be grateful if some
> > more people from Mumbai could
> > help me out on this. As I understand Dharavi is an
> > oft studied issue, so if people can
> > throw some light on it.
> >
> > nidhi
> >
> >
> > On 23 Aug 2004 at 6:43, Gita Dewan Verma wrote:
> >
> > has anyone, especially from Mumbai, on this list got
> > back to nidhi?
> >
> > nidhi, the 500 cr gift for dharavi came when wsf
> > 2004
> > was on, and is first on list of things accompanying
> > the statement against housing-rights-events on it,
> > got
> > forwarded for 'appropriate action' to Secy MoUD from
> > President Secretariat in February.
> >
> > buzz now is probably because of what's in the rajya
> > sabha press release of 16.08.04 at
> >
>http://www.pib.nic.in/hrelease/h-release.asp?relid=1331
> >
> >
> > in mumbai i don't know who is tracking this round
> > (it
> > goes back to PM grant in Rajiv Gandhi time).
> >
> > in delhi, spa has at least one recent thesis. hudco
> > must have something since they hosted sparc after
> > mumbai model for delhi was announced in 2002. dda
> > also, since they said at action-aid night shelter do
> > at ihc in july 2003 on behalf of vc (now moud secy)
> > that they were studying it with hudco and then
> > announced 3 pilot projects.
> >
> > in delhi this sort of thing is outright illegal
> > profiteering on public land and incapable of
> > working.
> > rep about is pending hearing with standing
> > parliamentary committee since July 2003, while rajya
> > sabha has issued this press release in undp
> > compliance
> > a day after ID.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- nidhi@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I am doing a write up on Dharavi for Down To Earth
> > > magazine. Need to
> > > understand the rehabilitation model of Dharavi
> > which
> > > is being touted as
> > > 'ideal'. As far as I understand, this model is a
> > > sham with lots of legal
> > > loopholes and master plan violations. I am
> > > travelling to Mumbai in the
> > > first week of Sept for the same. Can you pl feed
> > me
> > > with info, research
> > > papers, books, etc etc? If you could tell me their
> > > titles, I will look for
> > > them and read up. Apart from that any important
> > > contacts in Mumbai
> > > whom I should meet up. I do not want to land up
> > with
> > > 'wrong' experts.
> > > So any word of caution.
> > >
> > > Gita, I know I am bugging you again, but can I
> > come
> > > and meet you
> > > sometime if you are free?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > nidhi
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Correspondent
> > > Down To Earth
> > > 41, Tughlakabad Institutional Area
> > > New Delhi 110001
> > > India
> > > Tel: +91 11 29955124, 29956394, 29956401, 29956399
> > > Fax: +91 11 29955879
> > > www.downtoearth.org.in
> > > www.cseindia.org
> > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > mpisgmedia mailing list
> > > mpisgmedia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> >
>http://mail.architexturez.net/mailman/listinfo/mpisgmedia
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > On 23 Aug 2004 at 6:43, Gita Dewan Verma wrote:
> >
> > has anyone, especially from Mumbai, on this list got
> > back to nidhi?
> >
> > nidhi, the 500 cr gift for dharavi came when wsf
> > 2004
> > was on, and is first on list of things accompanying
> > the statement against housing-rights-events on it,
> > got
> > forwarded for 'appropriate action' to Secy MoUD from
> > President Secretariat in February.
> >
> > buzz now is probably because of what's in the rajya
> > sabha press release of 16.08.04 at
> >
>http://www.pib.nic.in/hrelease/h-release.asp?relid=1331
> >
> >
> > in mumbai i don't know who is tracking this round
> > (it
> > goes back to PM grant in Rajiv Gandhi time).
> >
> > in delhi, spa has at least one recent thesis. hudco
> > must have something since they hosted sparc after
> > mumbai model for delhi was announced in 2002. dda
> > also, since they said at action-aid night shelter do
> > at ihc in july 2003 on behalf of vc (now moud secy)
> > that they were studying it with hudco and then
> > announced 3 pilot projects.
> >
> > in delhi this sort of thing is outright illegal
> > profiteering on public land and incapable of
> > working.
> > rep about is pending hearing with standing
> > parliamentary committee since July 2003, while rajya
> > sabha has issued this press release in undp
> > compliance
> > a day after ID.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- nidhi@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I am doing a write up on Dharavi for Down To Earth
> > > magazine. Need to
> > > understand the rehabilitation model of Dharavi
> > which
> > > is being touted as
> > > 'ideal'. As far as I understand, this model is a
> > > sham with lots of legal
> > > loopholes and master plan violations. I am
> > > travelling to Mumbai in the
> > > first week of Sept for the same. Can you pl feed
> > me
> > > with info, research
> > > papers, books, etc etc? If you could tell me their
> > > titles, I will look for
> > > them and read up. Apart from that any important
> > > contacts in Mumbai
> > > whom I should meet up. I do not want to land up
> > with
> > > 'wrong' experts.
> > > So any word of caution.
> > >
> > > Gita, I know I am bugging you again, but can I
> > come
> > > and meet you
> > > sometime if you are free?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > nidhi
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Correspondent
> > > Down To Earth
> >
>=== message truncated ===
>
>
>
>
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Mumbai 400 064 INDIA
Phone: +91-9820912744